For a supposed grass-roots site, it is odd that there is so little back-and-forth allowed here. I have seen very little actual discussion of what the FISA bill actually does, especially the new power that the President is given and the ham-stringing of oversight. But I have seen a lot of demonizing and intimidation of those who are honestly and deeply concerned with the actual legal issues this bill raises. And yes, the legal implications are what matters for those upset with Obama's vote, not who is licking what wounds, who's the Velociraptor and who is the weak silly girly Chicken Little. I am sure past battles and experiences color all this, and experience in how one actually fights against organized state corruption on the neighborhood level, but really, take a look at the tone being set here.