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What is the Venezuelan News Media Actually Like?
Submitted July 16, 2008 - 2:10 pm by Eric Jackson (not verified)My principal criticism of this article?
One medium, several media.
Here in Panama, all of the oligarchic media denounced the non-renewal of the RCTV license, and it was left to the ragtag online media to note that freedom of the press is not a license to kidnap the president, kill people and overturn the results of national elections. Of course those of us who suggested that the issue with RCTV was treason rather than dissent were roundly vilified.
Panama's ad cartel and its corporate mainstream media are terrified of the Pink Tide because although they have everything rigged something might come loose and somebody could come along and sweep them out of power, as the Bolivarians did with their Venezuelan counterparts.
Let us hope that the market forces that oligarchs like to both praise and divert actually work, so that there are fewer oligarchic media, and that on the other side of the equation there are plural and diverse media, rather than one "media" with several outlets.
Several problems with this piece
Submitted July 24, 2008 - 3:54 am by Carlos (not verified)Eric Jackson: You say that 'freedom of the press is not a license to kidnap the president, kill people and overturn the results of national elections' And I ask you, did RCTV suggest, incite, execute any of these accusations you mention? Show us your proof.
Andrew Kennis: There are several problems with your article: Connie Mack does not speak for all of Congress. Quoting Mack does not give a reporter enough evidence to dismiss a whole government. Or would you like it if I quoted Kucinich on several issues or even Murtha?
Miguel Perez was published by the Chicago Sun-Times just like you could have been published. He does not represent the US media. He is not even a staff reporter at the paper.
Quoting the Washington Times is like quoting the Heritage Foundation. And you should know this. So quoting a well-known hardcore right wing newspaper is not fair to your readers who may not know that the Washington Times is not widely read.
You say that "The Washington Post, one of the most influential dailies in the U.S., irresponsibly included quotes about non-existent legal reforms in the leading paragraphs of one article. “The government is trying to change the laws and indoctrinate the population,” read a quote from a protesting college student and Venezuelan expatriate (06/16/07)" Now, the problem with that statement, Eric, is that you quote a Washington Post 'article' yet this is not an article but a quote from a Venezuelan citizen, within the article. Are we to censor our interviews on the street to those citizens with full legal knowledge on the issue? It is simple an example of what a citizen feels is happening and you have taken it out of context to say that the Washington Post is backing up the idea that there are legal reforms. You should know better.
You also state that polls on the rejection of the government move to pull the plug on RCTV did not show that people who rejected it did it because of their entertainment programming not because they liked the anti-Chavez programming. Are you saying that if people responded that they liked the anti-Chavez programming then it would be wrong to shut RCTV down? So really a channel deserves to be on the air because of its political stance? I don't understand how it matters whether people like RCTV for one reason or another. They don't want the channel closing. If you want to show that people don't like the anti-Chavez programming, that's fine but it doesn't provide a reason to shut down a channel. Or should we shut down Democracy Now in the US just because Republicans don't like the anti-Bush programming?
Mark Weisbrot and Eva Golinger are known staunch supporters of Chavez. Would you mind if I quoted Hannity and Colmes from Fox News to present president Bush or Mccain as a saint, arguing that Hannity and Colmes are independent media?
You say "The government’s claim that RCTV actively participated in the coup is well documented" Really? Please provide a link to the evidence. There is still no evidence on this matter. A channel broadcasting images is not executing a coup. Why didn't we close VTV in 1992 when the coup (a real coup with tanks an weapons not like the coup you are referring to) was broadcast live and even Chavez got his 1 minute of fame? If you have prove that someone edited videos and tampered with materialts then there should be a trial for those people but the channel is not at fault for what these people do. Or should the US government close down the New York Times for having misrepresented the facts on Iraq before the US invaded? Should the US government close down The Atlantic Monthly because a reporter tampered and made up sources?
You say "However, even the most conservative estimates put private commercial ownership at no less than 75% of the television news media. Other estimates that include more outlets are as high as 95%." Are you advocating that the government own more media? Would you advocate the same for the US government in the hands of Republicans? How about watching Fox New-like media, funded by the US government on 50% of the public spectrum? Would that be a fair balance Eric? Surely if you think over 70% or 95% ownership is too much in Venezuela then it must be the same for other countries. Wouldn't that mean an increase in our taxes?
You say "...was adopted in a 1999 referendum, with over 90% of the vote in its favor. More importantly, however, is the tremendous growth of this new form of media since 2002." But you quote inaccurate numbers. I don't know where you got that 90% and it shows how your journalistic integrity shines. The referendum passed with 71.37% in favor yet the abstention rate was 54.74% That means 5 out of 10 Venezuelans did not vote. http://pdba.georgetown.edu/Elecdata/Venezuela/venref.html My source is Consejo Nacional Electoral. This is what we do in the business. We quote sources.
Greg Wilpert is a leading political analyst according to who? Seriously, the guy is editor of venezuelanalysis.com, a site largely written by him. you failed to mention he is a leading, pro-Chavez, political analyst. If he is indeed according to you a leading one at that.
If you are a freshman student in journalism I apologize for being so harsh. However, next time, try to be accurate, try to quote (especially with the internet it is so easy to link sources) and if this is news and not a review of what was going on in terms of the media in Venezuela 2 years ago then I don't think I'll be reading more 'news' from the narconews bulletin. Sincerely, Carlos C.
Reply: Several problems with this piece
Submitted August 5, 2008 - 6:09 pm by Andrew KennisBefore replying to Carlos’s post, which was quite obviously on the emotional side, I’m going to take the liberty to repost a message he wrote directly to me:
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Carlos Centeno wrote:
With that said, Carlos nonetheless made a few points worth addressing. I’ve edited out the personal attacks for a more substantive discussion.
The article did more than just quote Connie Mack, it made specific mention of legislation he led and successfully managed to get passed as law and official policy. His quote was contextualized in that fashion, without the legislation, it is unlikely that Rep. Mack would have made his way into my article.
Indeed, Miguel Perez is just one example. However, he is definitely a fair and indicative example of the general tone of U.S. news media coverage, which has been far from independent of official White House positioning on the issue. One needs to look no further than FAIR’s extensive documentation on this issue, which my article purposefully linked to (more than any other source). Here is a compilation of those links, which cover more than two years worth of U.S. coverage failings and inaccuracies on the issue:
11-12/06a: “The Myth of the Muzzled Media
11-12/06b: “The Repeatedly Re-Elected Autocrat Painting Chávez as a ‘would-be dictator
01-02/07: “Inexplicable Tongue-Lashing
04/07: “Hyping the Venezuela Threat To NYT, ‘arms spending’ doesn’t mean spending on arms
05/25/07: “Coup Co-Conspirators as Free-Speech Martyrs Distorting the Venezuelan media story
01-02/08: “Mark Weisbrot on the Venezuelan Referendum ‘It wasn’t any surprise when Chávez conceded’
I would beg to differ. The Wash. Times still boasts close to 100,000 readers in its circulation and is located in the nation’s capital. Also, I find your characterization of the Wash. Times misleading, as you seem to suggest that it is unique in its right-wing positioning. However, the paper is actually pretty common amongst the other 100 leading dailies in this country with such leanings. After all, the news media is only as liberal as its conservative business owners allow them to be.
Quite the contrary, the Washington Post should *know better* than to run quotes in an article of limited space that state, without question, inaccurate facts. This is of course irresponsible journalism and has nothing to do with censorship. Editorial decisions are made all the time, including quotes of people from the street. Running what they say and feel is fine and dandy, but quite another then running quotes of issues that contain inaccurate facts. A simple example illustrates the point. What if I were an anti-Bush demonstrator and I told the Post, “Bush is a dictator and has never won a legitimate election in his whole political career. He has stolen them all and committed genocide against his own people!” Should they run that quote without question or qualification? Of course not. Quite appropriately, such quotes as that hypothetical are not run in the U.S. news media on Bush, nor should citizen quotes bearing obvious inaccuracies be run in the Post without question.
No, I am not saying that RCTV should have been shut down because people did not necessarily support its anti-Chavez programming. *However*, the article was purposefully rebuking misleading suggestions made by upper crust Venezuelans who oppose Chavez and said that the viewership overwhelmingly supported its anti-Chavez programming. Most, as the study found, liked RCTV for its entertainment and not its political content. That passage then was simply undercutting a misleading argument made by upper class anti-Chavez opponents.
Fortunately, Weisbrot and Golinger are far from Hannity & Colmes in terms of their extensive documentation and responsible research. Weisbrot is a long time policy analyst based on the Hill and Golinger, completed an exhaustively documented book detailing links between coup organizers and the Bush administration. Hannity and Colmes do not have such laudable backgrounds when it comes to supporting their often fiery and unsupported claims, all the more reason why Weisbrot and Golinger made their way into my article, and the other two, did not.
Actually, there is substantial evidence on this issue, ironically gathered by the very person you deride me quoting. She is not the only person to have done so, however. Many others have as well, including one columnist, Salim Lamrani, who was writing for Miami based online weekly. In his article entitled, “Hugo Chávez and RCTV: Censorship or a legitimate decision?“, Lamrani details the connections that RCTV had to the coup. But as Golinger pointed out herself here, those were not the only reasons that RCTV’s publicly controlled and managed license was revoked (which does *not* preclude it from broadcasting from satellite, cable, print and online outlets, as it has done, to my knowledge).
Most importantly, the laws that are on the books that allow the Presidential administration to grant and revoke public licenses were not on the books back then, I believe. Secondly, RCTV did far more than what you describe above, including violating tax laws, amongst other matters.
I do agree that RCTV’s violations should have been handled in a more public and transparent manner, but as a matter of principle, not as a matter of law. Because as it turns out, it does not appear that Chavez violated Venezuelan law with his RCTV decision.
No, I do not think so. But again, RCTV violated the law in far more ways than simply misreporting information. Part of their misinformation served to incite an illegal coup, not to mention the other laws they violated as well. In spite of that, they were allowed to broadcast for a half a decade more and still are allowed to broadcast on the private airwaves, as opposed to the public ones.
No, I am simply saying that the government does not *own* that much of the news media, especially in the print sector.
This was your best point, and probably the only helpful one in your comments, as you were indeed correct about the exact numbers for the support that Venezuelans had of the constitutional referendum. This was simply a careless error on my part, as I either checked my notes wrong or perhaps even had a simple typo. The Venezuelan governmental figures have indeed been used by the sources my article relied on, however, including an article by FAIR. Even the 71% figure is still pretty overwhelming, especially in light of the fact that it was a vote on amending the whole constitution and also attracted a higher turnout than most U.S. Presidential elections manage to garner.
He is a leading political analyst because there is no independent journalist who has covered Venezuela, in English, as much as he has done. He has been featured on Democracy Now!, a non-commercial, non-profit news program that I respect a lot, as do many others who read Narco News. While it is certainly true that he is sympathetic to the Chavez administration, I would not call him a staunch blinded supporter and he is certainly not paid or directly connected to the government (or any other, for that matter).
--Andrew
News?
Submitted July 15, 2008 - 12:25 pm by Nick CooperThis piece refutes the right-wing line, but fails to address the critiques of Chavez and his media policies by indigenous, environmentalist, and anarchist groups in Venezuela. During the hubbub over the RCTV, alternative media in the U.S. covered this material. I don't see anything new here, in fact there is no reference to anything that has occurred since June of 2007.
Reply: News?
Submitted July 15, 2008 - 12:28 pm by Andrew KennisHello Nick,
Thanks for your comment, which I actually partially sympathize with. The piece does not present the leftist critique of Chavez, which I personally find compelling at times. However, as a news reporter and analayst, I attempt to go beyond what I find personally compelling and report on what seems to me to be the most important topics at hand at the time. With this in mind, it is quite clear that the Bush administration line on Chavez and the Venezuelan news media, as well as the mainstream U.S. news media's positioning on the issue, has been dishearteningly effective in penetrating public opinion on this matter. For instance, I have had dozens upon dozens of conversations about this topic with people from the States who hail from many different backgrounds and the responses have been frigteningly similar to governmental propaganda on the issue. That was what inspired the article and it was not meant as a mere response to the "right-wing" critique, if not to widespread misperceptions about the matter. I tried to stick to the facts, as a result, which is that the Venezuelan media is only as pro-Chavez as the conservative, privately controlled corporations and for-profit businesses that overwhelmingly owns and manages their content (*especially* in the print sector). Ironically, Venezuela has more ideological diversity in its print content than the States does, in many respects (not to mention far more daily newspapers, proportionally speaking).
I do share some of your sentiments though, however, that it would be nice to see some more progressive criticism of Chavez. No democratically elected President, whether populist or not, whether left-leaning or not, should be beyond reproach of criticism and at times, some Chavez supporters would leave us to believe otherwise. However, another, separate article would be a more appropriate venue for such criticism. Perhaps we'll be lucky enough to see you write it. :-)
Now, on the less important matter you wrote about, I would agree that the piece is more of a historical one than perhaps a spot news piece. But that's the beauty of Narco News ... it doesn't limit itself to the blinders of ahistorical journalism and certainly respects the importance of looking back upon matters that are perhaps a year old, or even more. What's more, beyond some news on community media (which was not the focus of the article), there have not been major developments on this issue. But it certainly was important enough to write about, even at this date. That's the way we felt, at least in light of continued misperceptions about the issue.
Best,
--Andrew
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