Gotta Love The Welcome Wagon In This Neighborhood
By Al Giordano

Thank you to...
Barry Crimmins.
The Jed Report.
Markos Moulitsas.
James Wolcott.
And One Million Strong.
(And, yes, I haven't forgotten the full story of how we got here in all its gory details that I had promised for today, just, please, indulge me while we cause a couple more shoes to drop, first.)
I also plead your patience on the slowness in approving comments you've all made here this afternoon (there are many in the queue already): it's caused by a technical glitch in the software here when confronted with a deluge of readers flooding the site. We've now tripled the number of tech personnel working overtime to fix it, and expect to be back to our regularly scheduled programming shortly.
Update: The new Iron Man suit is nearing perfection. We can now queue comments again. More than 50 have been added, so type away, kind Field Hands, and stress the system with as much as you have to say. The "icing problem" may be solved.
Update II: We have now switched to a "sequential" comments section (like the one where we all met) and away from the "nested" format. Thanks to everyone who opined on both sides of that discussion. In the end, I'm a big fan of the axiom "if it ain't broke, don't fix it," and the comments section that grew up with The Field is among the finest on the Internet in part because people's comments are directed to everyone visiting rather than to side conversations between two or more commenters.


rss feed?
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by MK (not verified)Here, you haven't hardly moved in, but are you going to have an RSS feed?
Glad you're where you can speak your mind -- and thanks for what you do.
Yes, RSS is coming soon...
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by David B. BrionesWe're handling the stability of the server before we move on to design issues or anything else, including RSS.
The good news is we have made some progress and it looks like we can start focusing on more aesthetic issues soon.
Thanks for your patience.
To David, the techie
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by amk (not verified)I posted these aesthetic suggestions in another post
1. Can we have sequential posts instead of nested replies ?
2. Can we have white background instead of scary black ?
3. Can we have cookies remembering the login id and e-mail id ?
My $ 0.02 (until Deb refunds my money :) )
answers
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Al Giordano...to your three questions:
1. Dave and the tech team are checking on that. The preexisting Narcosphere and comments section on which this page is hosted has a DKos-style nested comments system. But if it is possible to change this page to sequential posts without changing the system in the rest of the host site, you can look forward to that. Patience, please. Moving a site with this many readers in two days ain't beanbag.
2. Dave has expressed in a previous comment that shortly you'll be given a color change option (to white) for the background color.
3. Probably not for guest users. But 300+ copublishers - and you can easily become another - already have that and other privileges here. Apply here:
http://www.narconews.com/copublisher/application.php
Thanks Al. I will be
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by amk (not verified)Thanks Al. I will be becoming shortly a co-publisher via donation route. (Yet to hear from Deb)
Once I get all my money back
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Stephanie (not verified)Once I get all my money back from Rural Votes, all wopping $75.oo, thats a lot for me by the way, I will donate all to you Al in addition to the nominal amount I donated today to get a co-publisher account.
One vote here for the nested
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Hudson (not verified)One vote here for the nested comment style. If a given thread doesn't interest a reader, s/he can skip it and scroll down to the next. It saves time, and is easier to read.
Yes, I agree!
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by pileta (not verified)Nested comments are much easier to read and follow.
I prefer the nested comments too
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by tyelperion (not verified)Much easier to see who people are replying to and what they're talking about. Sometimes on the old Field site I would read an interesting response to something and spend ages scrolling up trying to follow the thread amongst other comments. Nesting makes much more sense IMHO.
Me three
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Lenore (not verified)I also vote for nested comments, with a caveat that we should avoid long tangents that interrupt the train of thought. That way, if someone asks a question it can be answered where they can find it.
Alt possiblity
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Paul Stoller (not verified)I don't know how hard this would be from a technical stand point but if it were possible to mark posts that have already been read I would enjoy nested posting much more. I find it hard to determine which posts I've read and which I haven't when threads are nested. If there was a way to mark what has been read it would make finding new posts much easier.
Great!
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by pileta (not verified)Thanks for all the work to get the 'field' back online!
RSS Feed is available
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by RandyH (not verified)I use Google Reader and just pointed it at the URL (http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield) of the site once I found out it moved. It found the RSS feed just doing that.
Yes, and soon a link will be added on the sidebar
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by David B. BrionesBut RSS is currently on and working for The Field.
Yes, it's working well. A
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by matthew (not verified)Yes, it's working well. A request: please add the full text of the posts to the feed. The previous site did that. It lets people read the post without visiting this site: reduces load on your servers.
rss address
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Jason W. (not verified)Other newsreaders/browsers (Safari, et al.) can use:
feed://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/feed
The full enties are visible. Yay!
Thank you for the RSS link
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by evie (not verified)Very helpful.
Or...
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Lenore (not verified)If you're a kool kid with Firefox, you can click the little orange icon at the right end of the location bar (where you type a url) and it'll set up the feed on your toolbar. You only get post titles, not all the activity, unless there's some feature I haven't found.
Absolutely love the red
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by E. D. (not verified)Absolutely love the red truck! Will wait so patiently knowing the story will be worth it.
I'll wait
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by christomento (not verified)but I'm still somewhat confused because your diary seemed rather innocuous.
PS. Meant to add this days
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by E. D. (not verified)PS. Meant to add this days ago.
Senator Obama in 1995: "What if a politician were to see his job as that of an organizer," he wondered, "as part teacher and part advocate, one who does not sell voters short but who educates them about the real choices before them?
Well, I noted, a few posts back in another realm, your very gentle instructions to a new blogger about how to post OT. He wanted us all to read something about Africa, really OT, but (after you deleted his comment--too early in the thread), you came back to him and carefully told him on how to insert his OT comments later in a thread and added a few hints on blogging. As a former teacher, I found this extra effort and generosity on your part rather moving. Guess even journalists can educate their readers and not sell them short. That's what you've been doing throughout this campaign. Great work, Al. Thanks.
More shoes dropping
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by Deborah (not verified)Am I the only one who pictured an Imelda-esque fit of flying strappy sandals?
Glad you've got a home, Al, and I can be patient in my comments appearing.
gore obama live
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by GrannieAnnie TN (not verified)http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/amandascott/gG5JML
Glad you moved
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by CATHERINE (not verified)Al,
Once the bugs get worked out I hope to see some more comments posted. It's feeling lonely here! I just send a laundry list to DB who, for those of you who want to do the same on your IT issues, is the webmaster@narconews.com
I really liked what Barry Crimmins wrote -these are the times that you find out who everyone REALLY is.
Geez Louise, I'm listening to Obama in Detroit and wow - the guy was just getting warmed up in the primary!! And this isn't a comparison to Gore. God love him but he still can put me to sleep in five minutes flat. But Obama is seriously on fire - really strong words of support for Clinton and seemed genuine. He's a better person than me for sure. I think the Republicans are going to be blown away by our self-described "4th Quarter" guy.
Holy, Moly.
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by goldenstar (not verified)I have an active imagination, especially in moments of little information.
First, I thought that Al was taking a much-needed vacation but that's strange because he would have given us some notice. Then, I thought that he must be recovering from one of those wicked viruses because he dropped off the face of the Web.
Then, I saw the link @ DKos. Who'd a thunk?
ahhhh, nice space
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by Helen, Georgia (not verified)Al, you being at home over here just feels right.
I'm really grateful to the ning site pioneers for setting us up over there and distributing the map to the field hands.
Thanks for your work so far and for continuing it. I am learning so much from you & the regulars.
Being able to comment from my iPhone is great too!
change of venue
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by Allie Mann (not verified)Al,
It's great that you're now in the most comfortable environment for yourself. Am reminded of the Hollywood axiom -- Out of polite story meetings come polite scripts. I always felt an undercurrent of loser Democratic politeness at Rural Votes... and Deb's cowardly reaction to your posting brought it to the surface. Am also thrilled that this website also focuses on narcolepsy. Who could ask for more...?
Another test
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by downunderfan (not verified)Hope this goes thru ok.
Just remember Al(and the techies)once things warm up during the general your servers are going to need afterburners!!!
Lets us know if we can help.
Fieldhands Abroad
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by Michael ChapmanHey downunderfan,
I assume by your handle that you are Australian or based in Australia - have you joined Fieldhands Abroad yet?
BondiBeachViews
Field Hands Abroad???
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by pattonbt (not verified)Michael:
As another down under resident (US expat in Perth) how would I join the field hands abroad?
Thanks.
Field Hands Abroad Link
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by ClareON (not verified)You'll find a link to Field Hands Abroad on the right of this page.
or http://fieldhands.ning.com/group/fieldhandsabroad
Test
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by Nate (not verified)Glad to have found the site.....nice to see everyone's made the transition.
Thanks, Al. Onward.
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by brazilian for obama (not verified)Thanks, Al.
Onward.
Just Checking In
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by J-PA (not verified)Greetings Al...just checking in, throwing some stress on the system. Glad to see we are up and running. By all means gather the ducks in a row before revealing the tale of travel. We can wait.
Obama Speech With Gore
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by Brendan (not verified)Over at the Obama site, they are touting the speech with Gore as live. It's over now. Is there a link to an archived video anywhere? I'd love to see them both on stage together. I've been looking forward to this moment for eight months.
Looking forward to more shoes dropping.
Gore-Obama link below
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Joy IA (not verified)Didn't scroll through comments before posting, I linked it downthread.
Could it be
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by downunderfan (not verified)That the tradition media is finally waking up to the McCain double talk:
Dana Milbank in the WaPo
"He waltzed to the right on Iraq ("I am convinced that we are on the path to victory!") and economics ("He wants to raise taxes; I want to lower them"). He swung to the left on his bipartisan achievements: "I worked with Senator Kennedy on immigration. I worked with Senator Feingold on campaign finance reform. . . . I worked with Senator Dorgan in the investigation of the Abramoff scandal." He promenaded back to the right on guns and God: "I won't tell them that, in small towns across America and Pennsylvania, that they are bitter . . . so therefore they embrace religion and the Second Amendment."
And sometimes he tried to have it both ways. He spoke up for the "unique status of marriage between man and woman," then suggested he would let states make their own choices, saying, "I also feel that the people of California will probably make a decision on this."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/16/AR200806...
New Home has nice amenities
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by Land of Lincoln (not verified)I'm already feeling at home and anticipating Al's full story. I'm sure it's worth the wait. Also, like the reply option to commenters.
just a thought...
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by JessicaD (not verified)which may have already occurred to you...
Before I got my trusty Fieldhands email informing me of the new address, I did a search on Google for 'Al Giordano The Field' to try to find you. The second site that pops up is you, but I didn't realize it at the time, because the title of your homepage is "the narcosphere." If the page title had "The Field" in there somewhere, it might help those fieldhands who are still lost in the wilderness to find their way to the new home.
Time stamp
Submitted on June 16th, 2008 by Tara Hussein Van Niman (not verified)So just to clarify, these time stamps are Eastern right?
Clearly there will be no on consensus on this issue, but if you're taking votes, I prefer one constant thread of comments rather than sub-comments. Comments get lost upthread that way unless you go back up and look for them.
Glad to see your comrades (oops is that a dangerous word? Oh well, doesn't matter here!) giving you some coverage. Crimmins did a great job. :) Your callout to them also provided me with some new reading material.
Yes, this site is running on Eastern time. n/t
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by David B. BrionesHope that help.
Gore-Obama rally link
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Joy IA (not verified)Link to Al Gore and Obama from tonight
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/491629
Thanks for the Link
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Brendan (not verified)Awesome Rally and terrific speeches by Gore and Obama. I've been waiting for this moment for a long time. "Grassroots," "bottom-up,"community organizing themes dominated both presentations. Huge.
A Favor...or A Suggestion
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Alexa (not verified)Could you add some space between the Commments link and the Title Of The Post below on the homepage, or is it only my screen where everything is bunched together?
It's been fixed
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by David B. BrionesHi Alexa,
This has been fixed. If it still shows up like that for you, try hitting "reload" and the problem should be resolved.
DBB
Al, I enjoy your commentary
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by LetThereBeLiberals (not verified)and look forward to your posts. However your "cause a few more shoes to drop" does cause me some concern. I've been involved in the grime and glory of board wars and I'm narcisstic enough to be looking forward to the gory details so why my concern?
One of the things that has made "The Field" authentic to me was my belief that when you praised or dissed politicians etc it was because that was how you felt you would or wouldn't act in similar situations, especially coming from a community organizer background yourself. Since it was so recent the post that comes to mind was about Obama disinvesting from his VP vetter Johnson. You said he did it with class, he did it quickly, and he did it humanely. He praised Johnson, thanked him for his service, then accepted his "brokered" resignation. I liked your take on that.
Now of course I don't know the gory details about this split from RuralVotes but your first blog's "press conference" and promise of fascinating struggle did raise questions in my mind about your authenticity in regards to specifically how to disinvest without harm. I can be just about as much of an "Al" groupie as the rest of us and even posted my snarky "I'm out of here" comment over on the old field. But as I read more and more of the field hands comments, especially over there, and the dismissiveness and blatant disrespect shown to someone that sure is an Obama convention delegate but more so was someone who interacted, good or bad, with all fieldhands and I felt that the spirit of classy disinvestment you detailed so well in the Obama/Johnson incident didn't quite carry over into your own dealings.
If only your first blog had said something even if unflowery along the lines of "Due to differences of opinion with the managment we have decided to relocate the Field here. We thank RV for hosting us for so long but respectively have declined to continue the relationship." If only that then the fieldhands would have have probably still been snarky but not down right rude as some of those long deleted comments were. More Fieldhands would have been able to hold their heads up and say, "we disinvested with class" also.
Now not knowing the gory details, which of course I'm as eagerly awaiting as anyone who's been told they're coming, you more than likely had reasons to swat and to swat hard. I'm just having a disconnect because I can't decide which is the true Al. The tell-all reporter saving us from that nasty RV site or the connoisseur of forthright politicians with a mean left hook and velvet gloves.
When I read about the "gory" details, I will be looking for the purpose of the post and I'm not sure that calling the Fieldhands to fight the good fight will be enough.
Not exactly sure what you are trying to say
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Michael ChapmanLet there be,
I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say.
Second on the list of life's most stressful events (after death of a loved one) is moving home. To moving home, the Field can add the trauma of a divorce of some sort. And let us not forget that we all created a community around Al's writing and have forged online/'intellectual' friendships via the Field.
To my mind, RuralVotes has been ill mannered in the way the spit was handled. My reading of the Fieldhand comments that were eventually deleted was: at first there was a genuine concern about Al's health/safety and what might be going on; followed by frustration at receiving no 'news'; then some dismay and 'righteous' anger over finding out about the censorship and subsequent divorce via hints and directions left by third parties.
Don't forget many of us contributed money to the site (some from very tight budgets). Like Mr Obama's donors, many Fieldhands feel as though they are/were making an investment in the New Politics and the future. It seems to be the case that by contributing their own money as well as time (in our case writing) towards 'political activities', contributors develop a sense of ownership of the 'vehicle of expression'.
Personally, I am awaiting further details of the 'story' (hopefully, full and frank from both parties) before I decide whether to ask for my money back. However, it will cause me deep concern if Al hasn't been paid correctly.
Remember 'it takes two to dance'. The Obama/Johnson incident was resolved in the best possible way because Mr Obama and Mr Johnson shared a common goal and a noble purpose. Thus, Mr Johnson was able to 'exit' with uncommon grace. No matter how noble the other side behaves, if one side decides to be less than graceful, ‘fallout’ of some sort is inevitable.
BondiBeachViews
Authenticity Means Fighting for What Is Rightfully Ours
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Al GiordanoLetThereBeLiberals - What would be inauthentic is pretending that a labor-management dispute like this has no political principles at stake.
Let's see: I came to a website in December that had an average of 300 visitors a day (including search engine bots) and took it quickly into tens of thousands a day (sometimes peaking 100,000). That website then uses my success to snag a credential for the Democratic National Convention in Denver ahead of hundreds of other blogs based on the higher readership that I (with all your help) brought them. It then raises $2,400 to "Keep Al Writing" and more than $5,000 to "Send Al to Denver" and most of the first and all of the second isn't being utilized for the purpose to which it was requested and donated.
You don't think that those things are a matter of principle that require struggle? Well, I do. Because I have been unwillingly made a party to a grand act of deceit, and therefore I have a moral responsibility to my own dignity, and that of everyone that participated in good faith, to right those wrongs.
If I had given money and seen it diverted to something else, I'd be hopping mad, too. I have given my labor - which also has value - and I intend to make sure that word given to me and everybody else becomes word kept.
I think you're projecting your own experience with a different kind of "board war" on this situation. You're flapping your gums now about a different one saying "can't we all get along," and the truth is that until justice is restored, we can't.
Diverted Money?
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by Okke OrnsteinDoes this mean that this story is gonna be as good as the narco-banker, the sharks, and Al on his surfboard?
http://www.ornstein.org
I'm glad you have attorneys on this
Submitted on June 17th, 2008 by JoAnn (not verified)I'm not an attorney, but it seems to me that if money is requested and donated for a specific purpose as ours was and is not being used for that purpose, fraud may be involved. Being willing to return the money does not absolve them from using it for its intended purpose. What about the people who don't get the message to ask for the return - aren't they being defrauded? This really is "old politics" and is antithetically opposed to the honesty and transparency that Obama stands for. Thanks for not rolling over.