Guess Who Isn’t Running from Community Organizing?


Barack Obama, speaking about Father’s Day from the pulpit today at the Apostolic Church of God in Chicago, had this to say about its 86-year-old retiring Bishop Arthur M. Brazier, photographed above:

Here at Apostolic, you are blessed to worship in a house that has been founded on the rock of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. But it is also built on another rock, another foundation – and that rock is Bishop Arthur Brazier. In forty-eight years, he has built this congregation from just a few hundred to more than 20,000 strong – a congregation that, because of his leadership, has braved the fierce winds and heavy rains of violence and poverty; joblessness and hopelessness. Because of his work and his ministry, there are more graduates and fewer gang members in the neighborhoods surrounding this church. There are more homes and fewer homeless. There is more community and less chaos because Bishop Brazier continued the march for justice that he began by Dr. King’s side all those years ago. He is the reason this house has stood tall for half a century. And on this Father’s Day, it must make him proud to know that the man now charged with keeping its foundation strong is his son and your new pastor, Reverend Byron Brazier.

As the Chicago Tribune reported on June 1, Bishop Brazier got his start at community organizing with… guess who?

As his church grew in the 1960s, Brazier became more deeply involved in community activism and civil rights, especially after meeting community organizer Saul Alinsky. He became founding president of The Woodlawn Organization, a coalition that successfully fought against the expansion of the University of Chicago in 1963. Through the organization, Brazier worked to fight gang violence and crime in the neighborhood by setting up programs for rival members.

After he met King in 1966, the two men protested together against segregated housing and schools. In response, Brazier received threats on his life and his Apostolic Church received bomb threats.

“I feel proud and happy that we didn’t just sit around and wring our hands about these problems. We were able to see beyond the four walls of the church and we did something,” he said.

I point that out because it’s interesting, and also to correct any “Chicken Little” impressions that I’ve seen in the comments section worrying about whether the censorship over at the Ex-Field might have been directed from a certain national political campaign. It most certainly did not. And if anyone tries to give you that impression, they’d be actively sabotaging that campaign’s chosen message. As you can see from the above quotes, at least one presidential candidate in the US – as recently as today - has no fear of embracing community organizing and association with those that pioneered the art form.

Comments

Good to have you back, Al.

Good to have you back, Al.

Getting Angry

Al: Full disclosure...started reading this blog on the recommendation of a friend. I know nothing about community organizing, knew nothing of Alinsky or Kopkind, I'm just a guy sick and tired of the Repubs inability to govern this nation and the excuse for a President that leads them. Now I spent a few minutes this morning doing a little research on Alinsky and Kopkind as my curiosity was raised. After which, I must say, you've got be effing kidding me that they censored that post on the Ex-Field site. I can't wait to hear the story, and I'm sure, at the appropriate time, you'll provide it.

In the meantime, thanks for making the effort to get this blog back up and viable as quickly as you did. Peace.

I went back and re-read the

I went back and re-read the Alinsky piece after coming over the new and improved home of THE FIELD. My reaction the second time agreed with my first reading, that we have come a long way since 1971. The material, in spite of it's name or description, is not radical by 2008 standards. Rush Pumpkinhead, other right wing blowhards, even the anti-abortionists, have used variations on the numbered list ( as is their right, too). That list is acceptable to most every clear thinking person, regardless of politics. That Alinsky was a lightning rod in 1971 means nothing today except for people who will use it as a red herring (pun intended). Censorship is almost always wrong, but in this case, silly,in addition.

You probably have already noticed this Al

But the folks at Rural Votes now have ruralvotes.com/thefield forwarding directly to The Back Forty. It's now impossible to access "The Ex-Field".

And still without any statement on their end. Unbelievable.

I find it very surprising

I find it very surprising that there is no explanation at all. Nothing. Nada. Zippo. That's shocking.

Reading the "back pages" of ruralvotes, I see how The Field may have seemed like it had a VERY DIFFERENT "mission statement" than ruralvotes. But I'm shocked that they would act as if Al Giordano, Fieldhands, and The Field never existed just seems downright strange. Don't mean to hijack the topic though.

Give Rural Votes some time to reply

I've just got a job at a place like Rural Votes, and give them some time to reply. The 24/7 cycle isn't what they're on. Really.

A moderate crisis like this will require bringing together some people - like the executive committee of the board. And then they'll have to figure out what to do. And no-one expected to handle something like this - they usually spend their time trying to get smalltown papers to cover a candidate forum in Podunk, Mass. not deal with ten thousand pissy internet users (or whatever the hitcount was)

They're giving back money? That is good. They left stuff up for a while? That was nice, but now they're covering their butts. I think they can survive and grow from this, but have to admit they messed up or come up with a REALLY good cover.

They probably consider it...

....crop rotation.

So glad I discovered Al's new (or rather old) digs. I don't expect to be returning to Rural Votes anytime soon!

I follow The Field wherever it goes.

Every time I tried to access The Field (at ruralvotes.com) this morning, I was redirected to The Back Forty. Finally went to Daily Kos blogroll and got here from there. And before I knew what happened, I sent ruralvotes.com an email expressing my concern about the constant redirection to The Back Forty, a blog I am not at all interested in.

Glad to have found you here, Al.

Well said as always

Congrats on the new home, and landing on your feet. Glad to see your pixels, still saying it exactly as you see it. Fine by me! Don't water it down for anyone. Not that you would, in fact I get the sense you're constitutionally incapable of it :)

More Homes and Fewer Homeless

Following the fellows reports on the Obama HQ blog and Barack's speech today there is a glimpse of the coherent plan still moving forward. Much like the leaked memo I remember Tim Russert calling to attention. I can remember when there was a problem between several old houses in my village, an old sewer line in violation of new laws. No one could help, officials vaguely threatened if too much noise was made. Julia, my wife who is studying as an Obama Fellow today, went door to door and got every neighbor out there with shovels and we dug it up and fixed it ourselves. No one else still lives in town but while they all still lived here there persisted a powerful sense of identity as a village, a previously lost and abandoned place became attractive enough in part from that spirit that it went from 50% occupancy to what in comparison would classify as 150% occupancy. It is my only previous exposure to these ideas but I am eagerly learning what this could mean for our larger community. Thanks Al.

Al to Denver

Since the comments on ex field have been deleted, I am glad I already recorded the address to seek a refund if the donation is not going as intended: ombudskoz@ruralvotes.com

I do hope that as life flows on, healing can take place. Also, that we all remember this is about getting informed so Obama will be the next POTUS! Thanks Al for your insight and wisdom!

Thanks for Deb's email

Just emailed Deb K. using this address, requesting a refund regarding money sent for Al's trip to Denver.

The Back Forty is now deleting comments

That provide the link to the new Field. Will you be doing a post to DKos and the other usual suspects informing everyone of your new home Al?

okay, i'm slightly wrong on this

at least in my case -- they're not deleting comments, they're simply not approving any comments that have links to the New Field. Which I guess is only slightly outrageous, vs. utterly outrageous.

I put in a link to the Ning

Fieldhands site, along with other on-topic commentary. So far it went in and stayed there.

the Ning Fieldhands site is a separate entity

Just to clarify... the Fieldhands Ning site is an entity totally separate from ruralvotes. It's the spawn of the comments and commenters from Al's site. So the fate of Rural Votes and the fate of the Ning site are two separate things.

I understand that

but they are letting the Ning link through even if they aren't letting thru the new Field. And the Ning site has links to here so it's a round about way but it gets people here.

My comment, expressing

My comment, expressing polite dismay at the policy of pretending Al never existed and saying it showed a lack of respect for the readership did not make it past moderation either. I then deleted the site from my bookmarks.

Hey, for the link just check

Hey, for the link just check Al's entry in Wikipedia. That's how I found it...

Amen

Alinsky is an enduring presence everywhere but especially in Chicago. A recording of him at NPR has him saying this:
First rule of change is controversy. You can't get away from it for the simple reason- all issues are controversial. Change means movement and movement means friction and friction means heat and heat means controversy.

I never sensed....

...that the Obama campaign was behind this, though I knew some would wonder if we should go there. My sense is confirmed by the substantial MSNBC article on the way Hillary's senior thesis was suppressed and the MSM's apparent curiousity.

Obama's politics are frankly moderate and, while his incredible citizen-driven movement scares pretty much everyone currently in power, it's universally admired just for its ability to raise money and get out the vote. So I don't see an Ayers-type attack based on his use of the techniques developed by 'radical' community organizers. The threat to the status quo isn't in his techniques; it's in his method, which we all hope will be maintaining the community-organizing model from the Oval Office to turn us into a country of activists. That will be very, very dangerous for those now in power. Thus we see top Dems moving quickly behind him, hoping they can ride along and not get too badly hurt.

Of course we'll hear more tomorrow when Al posts what will probably be an exhaustive explication of what happened at Rural Votes, but my speculation is that Al's Alinsky-style journalistic organizing was just too scary for Rural Votes. It'll be interesting to see whether it was just Deb or some other machine pols that pushed the effort.

Organizing Movements

So "Super" Delegate Deb wanted to keep us all in our place - don't be active in the Party - that's only for us “Super” people inside the DNC. I'm glad to see that Obama isn't running away from the previous organizers of progressive movements - I had read in some of his previous interviews that he thought very highly of Alinksy. It was interesting to me the many times Deb K.'s comments were either ill-informed or condescending to the Field Hands --assuming that we knew very little about politics, rural issues, or any other subject matter to which she was wiser and more informed by being a part of the DNC.

Had Deb K. said from the beginning that she had no intention of endorsing before June 4th, I would have had respect for her. But it all seemed like a big ego trip for her to have us pour out our thoughts on the matter only to have it set aside for more than a few weeks and her plan all along was to hide behind the tsunami endorsements of June 4th.

IMHO, she contributed little, if anything, to the dialogue at the former Field; including some very odd comments about the Georgia add-on Clinton delegate in June who was (according to Deb's speculation) voted in by friends. She then wasted no time in chastising us for comments to the effect that Clinton was promoting only herself at the expense of the Democratic party with her “Most Popular Vote Woman” speech the night Obama won the nomination. Those same views of most Field Hands were obviously held by most all leaders of the Party who proceeded to thunk Clinton over the head the next day with a reality hammer. So other than knowing she loves margaritas I have little in common with Deb K. I hope my comments are considered “on topic” as the censorship of Al’s Alinsky post makes clear that within the Democratic Party, there are those who have the DLC unfavorable view of grass roots organizing. I often thought that Deb would be more comfortable in a Clinton run Democratic party than Obama’s new Party. I am very much liking these greener uncensored pastures here.

You know how when your

You know how when your breaks go out and you're flying down a hill hoping against hope that your emergency break will hold once you get to the bottom of the hill?
I think that's what happened at Rural Votes.
We organized, Al directed us to do a little homework, and Deb's emergency break didn't hold.
I don't think this was just about the Alinksy Post.
Deb knew once she tried to apply a muzzle on Al, she'd loose him.
What she didn't take into account is that she'd loose the rest of us as well.

Need To Get this Off My Chest.

I've always been suspicious of Deb Kozikowski, I've never been impressed by her. But I always bit my tongue (except for 1 outburst, which I apologized for afterwards) out of respect for Al. I can't say that I'm happy that my instincts were proved correct, but damn. I am not exactly surprised at the way despicable way she's handled this situation. Ego-tripping as usual.

Anyway, enough of that.

How many more people will come out and say they'll NEVER be Obama's VP? lol

Mark Warner and Ted Strickland basically shouted their stance from the rooftops.

While John Edwards has back-tracked a little to say that he'd do whatever Obama asked of him-- including being his VP.

VP-not

As for Mark Warner, I'm glad he will be fighting for the Dem Senatorial Seat in VA. He will be more effective there. We NEED a plurality in both Houses of Congress if we want to get anything done!

Strickland...don't care.

Obama Organizing Style

Yesterday the Obama site shared a lot about fellows training. Among the comments were:
"The ultimate goal is to contact voters directly, identify the ones who supports us, and get them to the polls to vote for Barack Obama on Election Day.

Organizing requires three things:

* Leadership that respects and empowers others
* Building relationships, community and commitment around that leadership
* A strategy to puts that community to work to win, with clear set goals and flexible tactics

"Respect, Empower, Include" is the mantra for our campaign and our organizing. We must live this manta on a daily basis. We must be respectful of our co-workers and our supporters; of our own daily projects; of the voters in the state we work; of our opponent and his supporters. Respecting, empowering, and including supporters in our campaign in a meaningful way requires a commitment to volunteer leadership development, training, and accountability.

We are committed to learning about, engaging, and strengthening local communities. We will listen more then we will talk. We will strive to be the best at each of our jobs -- at all levels -- and we will work together to make that happen."

It seems to me, the principles of "Respect, Empower, Include", along with listening rather than talking, is the model that is working in today's world and a step up from controlling from the top by the change agent.

Respect, Empower, Include

The *great* thing about this motto is that it has been part of the campaign from the beginning. They didn't just think it up at the start of the primaries or when the campaign needed a motto. I saw this motto at the Des Moines HQ many, many months ago where it was painted as a mural in the reception area for ALL to see the minute one walked in the doors. That said, every single staffer, field organizer, campaign person, etc. adhered to those principles when working with us "regular" folks as we worked our neighborhoods. I have no doubt that Barack will continue with this motto when he occupies the White House!
YES WE CAN

Don't Worry about the VP Stuff

It would have been a mistake to select Mark Warner because he is a shoe-in for the Senate spot and a strong Senate majority is necessary for the party and necessary to rid us of LIEberman.

I don't know why Strickland backed out, but I suspect it has something to do with Hillary. I think all her people will refuse a spot on the ticket because they are still beholden to the Clinton's and are trying to clear the field for her.

the exception here, of course, is Wesley Clark

who has been going after McCain like gangbusters and seems totally on board the O-Train. Loving what he's been doing lately.

Amen...

...to that. He puts McCain down while standing in a place of huge credibility on military matters.

me too

One of McCain's biggest strengths is the perception that his war service means that he supports the troops more than Obama does, or is more qualified on national security than Obama is. If we can convince people that it's McCain's actions (like not supporting the GI Bill) that show what he thinks of the troops, and that he doesn't actually have any more presidential level national security experience than Obama does and it's judgment that matters, then we will have gone a long way to defeating him since it is the main prop holding up his candidacy. Democrats have failed at this before but Clark is in a unique position to make the case, so more power to him.

Stickland ruled it out

Stickland ruled it out serving as ANYONE's VP a long time ago. He has just started his job in Ohio and isn't going to abandon Ohio.

I've never posted either

I've never posted either your old site or here before, but I'm glad to see you're not letting the bastards keep you down.

Keep blogging. This is one of the more informative ones out there.

What really turned me off

What really turned me off about the Democrat Party of old is that they didn't attempt to organize their natural constituency, the working class.

It seemed as though they were content to loose because they would always be in power by dint of the fact that the ruling class needs two parties, so as to give some degree of truth to the 'democracy' meme. Suffice it to say that most of the Dem establishment, with notable exceptions, were weakened, complacent shills for corporate power.

If a new style of community and grassroots organizing marks the difference with Obama, then this would be a welcomed change. We are overdue a progressive era of politics.

However, nothing new is birthed from something old without pain. The whole dust-up about the censorship and the move to the new location is simply an example of labor pains in the midst of birthing something new.

I would hope that some of the more establishment-oriented Fielders would not be too frightened by the narcosphere, and that they will find their way to these new, more nutritious pastures.

Full text of Barack's Father's Day sppech

For those interested, the full text is at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/15/obamas-fathers-day-speech_n_107...

Worth a read, as are most all of his speeches.

Lose or Loose? :)

LOSE definition: 1 a: to bring to destruction —used chiefly in passive construction b: damn 2: to miss from one's possession or from a customary or supposed place 3: to suffer deprivation of : part with especially in an unforeseen or accidental manner 4 a: to suffer loss through the death or removal of or final separation from (a person) b: to fail to keep control of or allegiance of 5 a: to fail to use : let slip by : waste b (1): to fail to win, gain, or obtain (2): to undergo defeat in c: to fail to catch with the senses or the mind 6: to cause the loss of Pronunciation: \ˈlüz\ LOOSE definition: 1 a: not rigidly fastened or securely attached b (1): having worked partly free from attachments (2): having relative freedom of movement c: produced freely and accompanied by raising of mucus d: not tight-fitting 2 a: free from a state of confinement, restraint, or obligation b: not brought together in a bundle, container, or binding carchaic : disconnected, detached 3 a: not dense, close, or compact in structure or arrangement b: not solid : watery Pronunciation: \ˈlüs\ Used in a sentence: I'm going to lose it if I keep seeing the word loose all over the internets when referring to a candidate not winning. :)

Loose/Lose

Catherine, I know exactly what you mean. The spelling/usage error is everywhere, and it's annoying. Also a problem is the confusion about "it's" and "its"-- Its enough to make you loose your mind.

Loose/Lose

THANK YOU, Catherine...as an English Teacher, I am driven crazy by that all-too-common error, too!

I think people get *confused* (at any age!) by the pronunciation: "loose" is pronounced *shorter* than "lose"...but that's the English language for you!

Another reason to *pump up* and improve *public school education* per our next First Lady!

Cheers!

(And Salud!) Thanks Catherine for the friendly reminder. Now, if only the body politic would get the object of the preposition, as in "between you and me"!!! ;) Of course, in some circles such reminders risk charges of elitism! I say it's about accuracy!

And yes, reading through these comments, it does seem as if this has been a successful transplantation. That the amateurish Tracy is getting single-handed finger counts for posts suggests that somewhere justice reigns. Neither she nor Deb contributed much to any discussion. All the front pagers at Kos are head and shoulders above Tracy and Deb as politically-minded thinkers or writers.

At any rate, we have a fresh start. Ad astra!

Finally, one thing I did like at the old set-up was the blog-roll of good political commentators. It would be nice to have those links nested again at this Field (it helped reduce the number of windows open at once).

So, good on you, Al. And Cheers to all and sundry!

Loose

Somehow "cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war" keeps running through my mind....except it's not havoc, it's organizing in a nation that's thirsted for it for almost 7 years now.

I knew something was really

I knew something was really amiss when I read Lenore's comment thanking Deb for returning her donation. So glad I found you here. Read last 5 posts and every comment (they're averaging 4 or 5 per), but no responses to queries on your whereabouts - very Twilight Zony.
Can't wait to read tomorrow's post. Are you still going to Denver in August?

Now back to lurking mode.

Clark attacking McCain on National Security

Off-topic but I thought this was pretty interesting:
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/06/clark_does_good....
This is a comment from a reader on Yglesias's blog post of an appearance by Wesley Clark talking about McCain and national security. You should watch the video - it's a pretty amazing example of the media-love for John McCain (but, but, but, this is John McCain we're talking about?)
Anyway, I think it is interesting to go after McCain like this on National Security and to go after him hard. I'd like to see more of this happening.

Wes' Smackdown

I'm not the biggest Clark fan around, but I watched this video and was really impressed. In '04, after his Hamlet act seemed to drag on forever while all his supporters behaved like it was the Second Coming, when he actually showed up it was a big letdown. Didn't seem particularly comfortable in the role and wasn't a very inspiring speaker.

What a difference a day makes. Here he seems at ease and relaxed, forcefully making his points without really attacking. I would like to see Clark take the point on this for the campaign. Have to admit he scored some Veep points with this.

So glad to find you!

I just want to tell you how happy I am to have found you here Al! I find this entire ordeal with Rural Votes rather disturbing. Let us know if you need contributions to get you to Denver, or to continue this blog. Thanks for keeping me sane!

Obama/Edwards SUSA Polls = Insane

In the vice presidential matchup polls Obama/Edwards is doing it up big time.

Obama/Edwards wins Missouri by 3 to 11 points

Obama/Edwards wins Oregon by 10 to 17 points

Obama/Edwards wins Minnesota by 7 to 15 points

Obama/Edwards wins Wisconsin by 8 to 15 points

Obama/Edwards wins Iowa by 12 to 26 points

Obama/Edwards wins Ohio by 12 to 18 points

Obama/Edwards wins Virginia by 9 to 18 points

*how can this be when Edwards couldn't even help carry his state in 2004. Hm.

link?

Hey yellow!
What poll are you referring to? Do you have a link?

Oops.

Here is the link to Survey USA: http://www.surveyusa.com/

Edwards ran on populism

In 2004 he did not, in 2008 he did.

I would love it, it would be rhetorical double whammy on populism vs wall street. If you trust Democrats at all, that would be a nice pair.

name recognition

Edwards scores so well because most people probably do not recognize other VP names. It's meaningless to poll different VP prospects at this point in time - it says about as much as the polls before the primaries said about who the nominee would be.

Name rec

I absolutely agree that it's name recognition. For all that people feel some warm fuzzies about Edwards, the man's only won two elections (Dem primary and state general for that Senate seat) in his life. I like Schweitzer, Sebelius, Napolitano, many others....none of them a national name. Once Obama picks someone (Al is the Catholic governor of a purple state guy, right?) that person will become nationally known (see John Edwards) and become a plus for the ticket in their own right.

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