"How Are You Guys? Good to See You!"
Posted by Al Giordano - January 7, 2009 at 3:22 pm
By Al Giordano
Those were Obama's first words to his predecessors when they met at the White House today, according to the pool report.
If you want, write a caption for whatever Obama and Bush Senior are whispering to each other. (For example: "Y'know, George, Karl Rove was right. I am 'the guy at the country club with the beautiful date, holding a martini and a cigarette that stands against the wall and makes snide comments about everyone who passes by!'")
Knowing how much that photo is going to upset some people makes my day.
Thirteen days, and counting...
Consider this an open thread.


That Picture Says Volumes About
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by CarolDuhart (not verified)What we like to call the peaceful transfer of power. Imagine former heads of the same state feeling comfortable enough to spend time with the current head of state. All alive, all healthy, with no thoughts of coups or other such nonsense.
Too many places still the transfer of power is very bitter, or violent, or only takes place after the predecessor dies.
It is also the most exclusive club in the world-a club with no auxiliary. Membership is bought with the greatest of effort and the deepest of pain.
Let's see... we have
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Scott KnoxBush, Clinton Obama, Bush, Clinton, Carter..
I'm not sure Mr. 4th from the left isn't the most upset of all, but that's politics for ya.
G.H.W. Bush and Obama are probably sharing a laugh about appointing a "non-intelligence guy" for CIA. Bill and Jimmy are likely thinking good thoughts from their own time in that particular office.
Dubya looks like he's just caught a glimpse of someone with a shoe in their hand.
Kaine at DNC
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Anonymous (not verified)Al what do you make of this Bloomberg report re: Governor Kaine as head of DNC and chairman of the Southern Governors' Association.
Former Presidents
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Lisa BallardRented the HBO mini-series John Adams during the holidays. (Which makes me want to delve more into McCullough's books.) There was something quite cathartic about travelling back to the times of our Founding Fathers so soon before the Inauguration. The movie spanned the dawn of our democracy through the presidencies of Washington, Adams and Jefferson. The capitol was in Philly then moved to D.C. Population of the colonies was approx. 500k. The White House was being built... I found this helped restore some of my appreciation for this important office which so many more have since inhabited.
May our new President Obama be remembered as one of the greatest and the honor of this office, our country and our Constitution be restored.
Missing Link
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Anonymous (not verified)Sorry, I forgot to include the link.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aXyrR9n88Nxc
Bush Sr. remarks to Obama,
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Nalani McClendon"That 43 is quite some guy. I know how to make 'em, huh?"
OT, what's up w/ Carter's body language? Looks like he doesn't want to be too near the Bubba.
@ Anonymous
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Al GiordanoI have zero doubt that the president-elect will have him give up the SGA post when he takes the helm of the DNC.
Some things are so predictable that I wait for them to happen before wasting bandwidth on them.
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Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by louisev (not verified)"So what do you think? Should I go ahead and rename it the Black House?"
Witness for Peace's "The Change We Need for Latin America"
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Kristin BrickerWitness for Peace, one of the many NGOs, labor unions, and organizations that outright opposed the Merida Initiative, also known as Plan Mexico, releases its "The Change We Need for Latin America" sign-on letter to Obama:
The Change We Need for Latin America
President-elect Barack Obama’s historic campaign and victory transformed U.S. politics. We know that this is just the first step to truly grasp the country’s desire for change and forge a new path at home and abroad.

Our partners in Latin America awaited the results of this election with almost as much anticipation as we did – given the enormous influence the U.S. President has on their lives as well. They hope that President Obama’s message of change will translate into real policy change for them. Now is the time to ensure that President Obama forges a new path in the Americas.
Please sign your name to this letter to Barack Obama - which lays out six policy changes that would represent the Change We Need for Latin America. We will deliver it to his transition team before he takes office in January.
Dear President-elect Obama,
Congratulations on your historic campaign and Presidential victory. Your call for change resonated with the American people, and we hope that as a country we can build true change, both domestically and abroad.
While your foreign policy challenges will be many, we urge you to bring your message of change to the people of Latin America and the Caribbean. As people who care deeply about the role of U.S. policy on our sisters and brothers in Latin America, we call on you to forge a new relationship with our southern neighbors – one that supports peace, promotes justice, respects sovereignty, and builds up sustainable economies.
Specifically, we urge you to:
Sincerely,
To sign on, go here: http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/5436/t/2467/petition.jsp?petition_KE...
@ Lisa
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by CarolDuhart (not verified)That must have been fascinating, Former Presidents having to deal with the issue of still being alive when their successors are ruling. That was uncharted territory. In the previous monarchial system, succession was either through death or coup with a very rare regency. The idea that a former head of state could just retire quietly to the country was totally new.
That's why there was no set role for a former President. Nobody really thought about that too much, or maybe they assumed most Presidents would be too old to do much more than just live a few quiet years afterwards. So the provisions for a former President weren't there. There was no pension, no assigned job, not even an honorary role where they could say represent the Country in a ceremonial role.
But medical science outstripped what the Founding Fathers once anticipated. A 50 year old man back in their day lived maybe another decade: these days, Clinton retires at 54 and will have at least 20 more years of retirement. Obama (if he serves all 8 years) will retire at 55 and with his habits probably make it to 75 or later. President Bush (the first one) was born in 1924, Carter also-but both men are still active and capable of doing something, almost two decades, and in the case of Carter, three decades, after they were in office.
So should we give them something concrete to do?
@ Al
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Anonymous (not verified)Al, I hope your intuition on the SGA matter proves prescient as it has so many times before.
Feinstein says that she will support Panetta
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Kit (not verified)http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2009/01/feinstein_says_she_support...
Al...who do you think is going to be opset by this picture?
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Palgirl2008 (not verified)what an image...so powerful
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Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by mkls (not verified)I thought Dubya's expression was the most interesting. "Hey, what's up, Dad? First you make friends with Bill, and now you're yucking it up with HIM? When do I get some quality time, huh?"
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Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Anne Crumpton"Neat place for a basketball hoop."
What pleases me: The next time these guys get together, the tall skinny one will be in the middle - now that is balance!
An Obama sandwich on Bush bread
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Allan Brauerwith a couple of crackers on the side...
Does the man ever get nervous?
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Jim (not verified)I find it almost eerie how cool and non-plussed Obama appears at all times. No wonder that whenever he talks, the markets seem soothed.
It is interesting to wonder whether this ultra-cool quality will ever backfire. I suppose the possibility exists that a situation will arise where Obam fails to show emotion that others want to see. But for now, his demeanor sure seems to be the perfect antidote for the times.
Having nothing to do with Secratary-Elect Clinton herself
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Sadie (not verified)boy am I glad that picture isn't Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton/Carter. It would feel pretty weird to have even more of a "family portrait" feel to that image than it already has.
I wonder what Carter would
Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Joanna (not verified)I wonder what Carter would have to say to the others about Palestine if they all weren't yukking it up for the camera?
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Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Michael ChapmanBush Snr: What do you reckon it'll be this time, a Jimmy Choo or a Blahnik?
Obama: Either way, Sir, it will be American democracy in action.


BondiBeachViews
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Submitted on January 7th, 2009 by Danny (not verified)"You know, that cardboard cutout of 43 looks just like the real thing."
I wish Howard Dean were in the Cabinet...
Submitted on January 8th, 2009 by Veritas78 (not verified)...but it doesn't look like it. That man's contribution to our November victory cannot be emphasized enough.
"You could drive a car
Submitted on January 8th, 2009 by Alexa (not verified)"You could drive a car between Clinton and Carter. Should we nudge left?"
No, Alexa you're missing the narrative ;)
Submitted on January 8th, 2009 by Michael ChapmanCarter has just told Clinton a 'shoe' joke and dared Clinton to say to Bush43 ...
Clinton (to Bush43): Shoe at 2 o'clock.
Bush43: What, where, not again?
Bush Snr: What do you reckon it'll be this time, a Jimmy Choo or a Blahnik?
Obama: Either way, Sir, it will be American democracy in action.
And Bush43 doesn't get the joke, hence that totally lost look - and the others then piss themselves laughing.
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The left don't know how to pick their battles
Submitted on January 8th, 2009 by Palgirl2008 (not verified)a diary on dkos stayed on the req list all day yesterday slamed the selection of Sanjay Gupta for Surgun general.
1- the diarist used a blog post that accused Gupta of misdeeds which turned out to be bogus because..ahem..because the blogger and the diarist confused this Sanjay Gupta with another Sanjay Gupta...charming. By not verifying their facts, and by making such a horrible mistake , they weakened their argument and made it hard for people to take them seriosly.
2- The diarist and his chorus of fans refused to understand the real role of a SG, and in doing so they faught their battle on the wrong turf, which made their arguments weak.
3- They used trivial bullet points against Gupta that made them look petty and empty...he drives his Jaguar too fast( THE HORROR!!), he is a TV personality and a paper doctor( a practicing neurosurgen and a faculty member at Emory university).
but above all..they picked the wrong battle, they used wrong facts to drum up faux outrage...
that is how you become irrelevant and make people NOT take you seriously.
David McCullough
Submitted on January 8th, 2009 by Anne (not verified)To Lisa Ballard:
I highly recommend David McCullough's bio of Truman. I just finished reading it and it gave me a new appreciation for the man. Here's a guy who grew up in Missouri freely using the n-word, whose grandparents owned slaves, and yet he pushed hard for a Civil Rights bill and desegregated the military.
And speaking of pensions--he was the first President to need that pension. When he left the presidency his only income was his army pension. $100 a month.
Regarding the picture, I love how Obama looks so comfortable there. The man is so comfortable in his own skin--he projects so much ease and confidence. As Jon Stewart said once, "The guy is inheriting two wars and a financial crisis, and he looks like he's getting an invisible massage."
Nominations now open - 2009 Bloggies
Submitted on January 8th, 2009 by Allan BrauerFolks, nominations are now being solicited for the 2009 Bloggies. I submitted The Field in the Politics and Best Writing categories, and heartily encourage you to freep this poll in similar fashion. I also submitted NarcoNews in the Latin America category.
While most of these awards are highly suspect due to the methodologies by which nominees and winners are selected, I was disappointed that The Field was not nominated in the confusingly similarly-named 2008 Weblog Awards (voting now underway). However, there are some excellent blogs you can show some Field love to, such as FiveThirtyEight.com in Best Political Coverage.
The 2008 Weblog Awards are also worth freeping because of an hilarious blog-war that has erupted. PUMA scratching post The Confluence is nominated for "Best Liberal Blog." (No, I'm not kidding.) The always hilarious Rumproast (itself deservingly nominated as Best Small Blog), which has elevated PUMA-stalking into an art form, began encouraging its readers to vote for Wonkette instead to fend off the inevitable and anemic PUMA swarms. Wonkette, in turn, noticing the love, took a closer look at The Confluence and joined forces with Rumproast in the battle.
Now threads at all three blogs are jumping with internecine warfare, accusations of cheating running side-by-side with suggestions on how to cheat from The Confluence as it falls further behind in the voting (why does that sound so familiar?), sock-puppetry, and merciless mockery. Warning: it's addictive.
Kaine at DNC
Submitted on January 8th, 2009 by Tien Le (not verified)I'm confused. I'm getting conflicting info about Kaine and the DNC. Seems like Al said he was "appointed", but on Charlie Rose the other day someone from Bloomberg News said Kaine was "nominated". Does the DNC get to vote on this as a nomination? Or is it an edict from on high?
@ Tien
Submitted on January 8th, 2009 by Al GiordanoTien - Technically, the 300+ members of the Democratic National Committee vote on their chairperson. By tradition, when a party takes the White House, they defer to the president who is considered the top party leader. There's no official nominating process from the president, it's just considered to be what the DNC members will do.
When the opposition party is in the White House, there are election campaigns (as we see today among Republicans wrestling for the RNC chairmanship, and saw four years ago when Howard Dean challenged incumbent Terry McAuliffe at DNC). But when the party is in power, it defers to the elected president. There's no statute that says that has to happen, but it is what has always happened.
Thanks Allan - that made me
Submitted on January 8th, 2009 by Karen DesmondThanks Allan - that made me laugh out loud.
On the Sanjay Gupta appointment - I think it's another great choice - here's Ezra Klein's take (who always thinks out this health care policy stuff clearly)
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=01&year=2009&...KD
Daschle at HHS
Submitted on January 8th, 2009 by Tien Le (not verified)I'm watching the confirmation hearing for Tom Daschle. It's fascinating! Looks like he's going to get recommended for confirmation. What surprises me is how knowledgeable all the members of this committee are. They are all asking such pressing questions and being so civilized. (Great to see Sen. Kennedy!)
Especially interesting is to hear someone like Sen. Hatch admit the system is broken. Seems like they all want to improve health care and wellness straight across the board.
Maybe I'm being naive and they're just all being on their best behavior, but wow, this is really hopeful to me.
Inner wonkette
Submitted on January 8th, 2009 by jon (not verified)No, Yes, No, Yes, Yes
Jimmy Carter
Submitted on January 8th, 2009 by nepat (not verified)Jimmy Carter looks like he was Photoshopped into that picture.
And Clinton looks like he wishes Carter was Photoshopped into the picture!
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Submitted on January 8th, 2009 by Patrick (not verified)"I wish you were my son"
Off Topic - The Big Week
Submitted on January 9th, 2009 by Jessica CarusoAl,
I have not comment much lately because, well, I think you have said all that needs to be said. Thank you for that. I have not donated lately because I am saving up for the big week in DC. I know you are not planning to go to the inauguaration but wonder if you have any recommendations for events that those of us who are going should not miss. I know places that have smoking areas are, of course, the best for information.
Thanks again for everything,
Jessica
Are these men
Submitted on January 9th, 2009 by Ransom (not verified)all the same height, more or less, or arranged on boxes?
And, Patrick wins the Caption Award !
Submitted on January 10th, 2009 by Agoram Muthukumaranamk
For some reason, photos are not embedding here.
Submitted on January 10th, 2009 by Agoram Muthukumaranamk
@amk
Submitted on January 10th, 2009 by Narco NewsYou had a webpage address (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/politicalcartoons/ig/Political-Cartoo...) in the img src rather than an actual image.
Images are being embedded fine, just make sure you put an image. I put the image I thought you were trying to embed in comment in question. If it is incorrect, please edit your comment and put in the correct link.
Thanks David . That was the one I wanted to embed.
Submitted on January 10th, 2009 by Agoram Muthukumaranamk
Excellently written article,
Submitted on March 18th, 2009 by Zoran (not verified)