Live Blogging the McCain Speech

By Al Giordano

Okay, here goes. Help me blog this thing!

(And how did John McCain ever get the rights to use this song? That's just an un-American sacrilege! Must be a St. Louis Anheuser Busch thang.)

Update 9:07 p.m.: Another slide show. The two-dimensional nature of these GOP convention videos is so yesterday. Oh wait. It does have a few snippets of actual moving characters. But, like, any of those people ever hear of YouTube?

9:13 p.m.: "Barack Obama never had a daddy who would carpet bomb him." (And is that Fred Thompson's voice reading the "poem" at the end of the video? Okay. There he is. Poking around the stage to find the Braille teleprompter...

9:16 p.m.: This can't be happening. They're using the lime green jello background again! (Where is Katie Halper?)

9:32 p.m.: I've now read the entire speech, shrugged my shoulders, and said, "Al, you should watch it. Maybe the delivery is better than the text?" But it's not. This is a really B-list speech. I don't think it works with swing voters, not the suburban soccer moms nor the Nascar dads. It's really quite feeble. It's like he has something to prove and keeps falling back on his resume. "I fought for Indian tribes." What? I fight for this, I fight for that. Huh? I bet that Mark Halperin grades this speech B-. And it will hurt him to have to do so. But maybe McCain will rally in the brief "talk show" segment? Or is that even going to happen. He's barely halfway through his prepared remarks!

9:36 p.m.: I remember this convention. Both of them. It's 1980 and McCain is Jimmy Carter and Obama's speech was Ronald Reagan. Just sayin'.

9:45 p.m.: This is so happily terrible. "My friends, we'll drill them now, we'll drill them now!" Should be an interesting night in St. Paul as they haul in the big oil equipment and open up a hole in the city. Worst. Acceptance. Speech. Evah!

9:50 p.m. I can imagine Halperin, pen in hand, thinking "if I'm going to be honest this is going to be a C grade... Maybe I should give him a C+!" And Chuck Todd is thinking, "I better not grade this speech!"

9:52 p.m.: I'm just waiting for 9:56 to chant "Four more minutes! Four more minutes!" People really do watch these things thinking, "can I really listen to this guy for four years?" Jeebus. "I have my record and the scars to prove it. Senator Obama does not." And by that you mean, Senator? And? (Halperin is thinking that if he were a real journalist this would be a D grade.)

9:56 p.m.: Four more minutes! Four more minutes!

10:00 p.m.: Remember the term "catharsis" as applied to the Democratic convention? This is a "catharsis of one." Rare, when the losing team starts running out the clock. Never seen that before. Chicago must be ecstatic right about now.

Comments

That music

Isn't that based on the Dallas theme?

POW POW POW

 Geebus, this is so very old, just like McSame old!

Well, Annheiser Busch is selling out to the Belgians

But I can't imagine Chuck is a big McCain fan.

This is boring

Is this seriously what they're going with?

I'm not appalled yet. Just completely bored. Whereas last night was a combination of both

Al, Cindy McCain was simply creepy and hilarious.

This is too good.

Pow, father, a son, a husband.

No wonder McCain's effed up--his own dad tried to carpet bomb him when he was prisoner of the Vietnamese.

Still wondering

if there's going to be blowback on the 9/11 video.  That was an outside shot.

 

"mama's boy

* OMG WTF why did that ghost lean into the camera and shout "mama's boy".

* he'd stand for hours gazing at the... wait he carpet bombed his son?

* highlighting the military  background of your family may not be a great idea in an age where people are tired of a pointless war.

* don't use the phrase, "in prison i fell in love..."

Anyway, the "war mongering" meme is getting big play here, and the dastardly music soundtrack is horrid. This whole thing screams "warlike" which doesn't help with the "temperment" meme...

 

 

 

The compelling story

Of how McCain survived Guantanamo.

Al, sorry but I cannot help

Al, sorry but I cannot help you. I came here seeking refuge, so I was relying on you to help me with the speech. I made the mistake of watching Lindsey Grahm’s rant and the exploitation of victims of 9/11. I am nauseated, so I cannot watch anything else.

And how it was that John McCain made his way

through Enhanced Interrogation

Diversity

I love how the vids are always loaded with brown faces - but the audience?  Not so much...

This is the honest truth...

When I started the C-Span live feed on my computer a few minutes ago, the part of the intro video was playing that had the guy reading the book, and for the first minute and a half I thought the video was stuck, and I was about to reload the feed, but it panned back to a McCain photo and I realized it was indeed playing!  Could they have gotten a more boring guy to read that?

Change will come. SFX: Jets

Okay, he's seeking to be our next commander in chief.

Lots of war planes. Is this an air show?

I can see his aura 

I can see his auroa

 

Old Grandpa Fred

 is intro voice. Man, he is stiff.

No need for blogging--here

No need for blogging--here it is: POW POW POW POW POW POW POW Iraq POW.

NPR says it's almost religious

well, "religious symbolism" 

 

I don't know what to say

Al, sorry but I cannot help you. I came here seeking refuge, so I was relying on you to help me with the speech. I made the mistake of watching Lindsey Grahm’s rant and the exploitation of victims of 9/11. I am nauseated, so I cannot watch anything else.

is the stage phallic or a middle finger? please advise

my wife noted that none of cindy's "laugh lines" connected. i think setting her up as the alcohol peddling young lady who seduced a man 20 years her senior away while lying about her age" may not have played well in this "pro Palin" crowd.

I'm curious to see if this *is* his party or not.

A true heroe

Too bad it doesn't mention how Bush at that time heroically defended Houston against Vietcong attacks.

A GREEN Screen!?!?!?!?

OMG!!

 

waterprise2 AKA Pam

Liberal with a Capital L!

 

Yes we can!

Green Background!

Chuck Berry

Back in the 80's, when I was a sprite young thing, I spent New Year's Eve at the Limelight in NYC and Chuck Berry was playing.  When he was about to start Johnny Be Good, he said, "I want 4 boys and 4 girls to come up here and dance with us..."  Uh, huh.  I did.  It was great! Will resist any association of that song with Mr. McMansion.

LOL-Pam

 A green screen again, he looks really orange.

protesters

sign up in the cheap seats - cutting to it several times

"you can't win an occupation" & "McCain votes against vets"

Invasion of the Democrats!

Did you see the sign: You can't win an occupation?!?!?  and McCain votes against vets!?!?!?

 

waterprise2 AKA Pam

Liberal with a Capital L!

 

Did anyone see that banner:

Did anyone see that banner: "You can't win an occupation."

It flew by, was wondering it I really saw it.

 

Attack,Attack

War, more war and more wars!

fundraising

Obama brought in $10 million last night

green screen ftw

republicans being portested at their own party. vets against the war... occupation isn't victory (?). interesting. I don't think it registered but it gave me hope.

Wow... harassed at your own convention.

And still he goes with the green screen.

Protestors

I hope they make a fuss!

I loved the

"McCain Votes Against Vets" Sign that guy was holding! As a veteran myself, I couldn't agree more.

I saw it!

Wow! how did they get through the nazis?

Is that why...

you can't keep your eyes off Sarah's ....?!?!?!?

First Lady Cindy...in your dreams!

 

waterprise2 AKA Pam

Liberal with a Capital L!

 

He's fighting for the little

He's fighting for the little guys, a list he's reading from a teleprompter. Wonder if he's really met them?

 

Crowd chants

I can never make out what they're cheering.  Last night, it sounded like Seig Heil!  Now, All about fighting, war, prison, country first, attacks, dark days, "USA! USA!"  "Oh How Lame" or is it "John McCain"?  ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz.  Flashback:  Cindy mentioned MOther Theresa in her speech.  Wasn't Mother Theresa a community organizer?

Love it!

Okke, I know!

How stupid are they with the green background again!

Oh lord...Cindy, you're the light of my life...sorry about that awful thing I called you.

Green?

Okay, people, step it up with the comments. I'm gonna stand down on my comment pace....

 

Can see Ustream screen on google news news: http://news.google.com/?ned=us&topic=el

Country first

These clowns can't even keep their own convention secure?

He goes for the Hamas background again!

I knew he would go back to the Hamas green!

Show your true colors, McCain!

truly sad

Meg Ryan also wants her smirk back.

McCain is *pissed* about the vets there (as he should be).

Gracious shout out to Obama

We are all Americans. (yes, i saw your speech last week).

Guess last night didn't happen, eh?

Changing colors!

 now blue screen, too funny.

Amber

waves of grain?

He respects Obama...NOW he's an American? Yeah right...

Gag me with a spoon!

Guess he couldn't stand Obama staying above the fray...

You're gonna win?  In your dreams!

Too many community organizers for Obama!

 

waterprise2 AKA Pam

Liberal with a Capital L!

 

Were they shouting "Yes we

Were they shouting "Yes we can"?

KD

About the music

McCain has made it a habit to not even bother to ask for the rights to use copyrighted materials.

Another protester snuck in

Another protester snuck in ... is this good or bad. Or is she a plant?

He gets to look good; makes

He gets to look good; makes the left look like cooks. Have to wonder

OMG

Code pinkers it looks like...

Wow!

OMG! They cannot secure their own convention! How can they secure our country?!

bold switch to blue

and by "he should be pissed" i meant that this entire thing is so run so poorly -- from the green screen to the lack of any organization -- it's insane.

Keep riffin baby. "tough times for many of you".

they stole the headlines. kudos.

If no arrests were made,

If no arrests were made, then we'll know for sure. 

Ground noise?

you mean don't get distracted by Obama's ground GAME?!?!?

He can't even control his own crowd!

 

waterprise2 AKA Pam

Liberal with a Capital L!

 

Mamma McCain

No lie, Mamma McCain looks pretty good for 96.

And I know its crass, but someone needs to work with McCain on pretty hand gestures. I understand he can't lift his arms, but it isn't a good visual. And since Davis is like, its all about imagery...

And what the hell is with McCain's security? There have now been, apparently, three interruptions by protesters...

And in the time it took me to type that, a fourth.

Code Pink!  I love it. 

Code Pink!  I love it.  This is great!

 

Governor...

have you ever even MET a Black person?

 

waterprise2 AKA Pam

Liberal with a Capital L!

 

"She's worked with her hands

"She's worked with her hands and nose"?

KD

More Sarah?

I thought this was about YOU?

Executive experience?  How much do YOU have, Johnny?

 

waterprise2 AKA Pam

Liberal with a Capital L!

 

LOL

Johnny Mac on Palin... "She works with her hands and her nose -- she knows..."

oops. But funny.

Eloquence

"She's worked with her hands and nose!!!"

By contrast, in making that

By contrast, in making that statement about Palin knowing how to struggle and work with her hands, McCain concedes he doesn't himself have those attributes. Interesting, ... Meaning in a common folk sense.

"She works with her hands

"She works with her hands and nose...?"  Oh, "knows."

 

Change is coming alright!

 In the form of Barack Obama!

"do nothing, me first,

"do nothing, me first, country second crowd"

Hey I thought he just said he respected us

KD

This is too pitiful...

I'm signing off...still have client work to do for tomorrow!

 

waterprise2 AKA Pam

Liberal with a Capital L!

 

The Me first McCain Palin team

A legend in their own minds. "I Only fight for you." McCain the same old shill for the haves.

Keating Five ... "I've

Keating Five ... "I've fought corruption ... the big spenders ... and pork barrel ... you will know their names" Charles Keating et al

Throwing out the Pork

 Fought them all! Fight! Fight! Fight! McDraft likes to fight, we get it!

Note he only got applause for

Fighting the union bosses.

OK, I'm waiting for the

OK, I'm waiting for the vision part. What's in this for me?

Code Pink

Not great.  Democrats are crazy, don't you know.  And partisan as all get out.  Not good at all.

 

I'd rather think they were plants.

Fight again!

 How many fricken times has he said this word? Fight! He loves to fight, is that all he can do? I guess so.

How, how, how do you fight

How, how, how do you fight for them?

KD

too bad they couldn't get a few more protesters in there...

and dole out the 'getting kicked out" better. I think they were a few inches from tweaking him to the point of losing it. Could have been a game changer if he showed that temper. Maybe it will still happen...

In the meantime, the blue screen stands.

Let's all go get Wonkette (who seems to be in the room) to storm the stage.

McCain's pandering tot he special needs group seems like it's falling flat, as does the rest of his fighting for whomever.

What a freakshow.

I fight for you. 10% of the time

90% of the time, I fight for Bush

I think Katie might be passed out

Either someone put her to sleep or she was playing the POW drinking game and it all got to be too much.

Ha ha!

 Safe from who? What a joke!

OK he fights

and just how he is fighting?????

OMG - he wears a braclet in honor of a lost service man too.

"4 more years of hell"

I just can't believe they went there.

Fight

Take a drink every time he says fight.

I think this is the "I Have

I think this is the "I Have a Fight" speech. :)

 

He speaks truth

We were elected to change washington, and washington chanegd us.

(I made you a cookie, but I eated it)

So, plz. I can haz 4yrs chance?

Kthxbai

Back to Basics?

Pretty soon they will take away the womens vote.

Wait, WTF, Over?

Did he say that the latina daughter of the migrant worker is an American?

Huh? Huh?

Moreover, did they applaud that line? 

And most of all we believe

And most of all we believe in being in control

That's great, but how will you fight for them?

My dad said he wanted to hear a bit about how tonight, and I agree. I doubt he will go into specifics though... How hypocritical that he and Palin talk about taking on lobbyists, but their campaigns are run by them. LOL " By standing up to the values that American admire?" That could go either way. Maybe he could have used a "standing for" instead.

Playing to the base

This is not reaching out to indys from my point of view.

More risk takers

Aren't they the ones that put us into this financial mess to begin with.

Geez, bring back Cindy. I

Geez, bring back Cindy.

 

I swear.

He is Liar!

What f*cking health care plan?

Upper class tax cut, NAFTA,

Upper class tax cut, NAFTA, social welfare/Medicare cuts; voucher health care; and speaking of bureaucrats between me and my doctor, has McCain ever been in an HMO?

I haven't been able

to get Obama's donation page to come up the last couple of days.  I wonder if there's more traffic than it can handle. Anyone else having trouble?

Oh, never mind.  It works fine in Firefox.

"Ground noise and static"

I firmly believe this comment, if it gets any play, will not play well at ALL with independent voters. My boyfriend, sitting at the other side of the room, who is traditionally a politically-apathetic rather independent sort of voter from Peoria, IL (bellweather anyone??) overheard the scene with the protester and McCain's comment that to ignore the ground noise and static, or something similar to that, and said "so he thinks that anyone who stands up and opposes him is ground noise and static???" My boyfriend is not someone who is sold on Obama, nor even sure he's going to cast a ballot, but if he does, it will definitely not be for McCain.

Where the eff is code

Where the eff is code Pink!  They only had two plants inside?

Presentation for Convention or National Audience

Who in the GOP planning committee decided to show pictures for the benefit convention hall rather than figure out out how to McCain look good against a TV background?  Even a little flag behind him would make sense in this context.

No better than his "That's not change we can believe in"speech

When I heard he was going to give a Good Cop speech, I knew it would be a repeat... the sing-songy tone when he is supposed to hit a rhetorical stride.  The inability to hit the strong word of a sentence.  The feigned whiny sympathy.

Like there aren't

insurance company beurocrats standing between us and healthcare now.  I would rather have a government  beurocrat looking out for my interests rather than an insurance company beurocrat just looking out for theirs.

Walmart full-employment for

Walmart full-employment for Amercia jobs program

About this point...

About this point the crowd is all thinking, Palin/McCain????

 

did someone forget to tell them about swing voters?

having an entire room of rethugs booling is bad tv and scary. the only interesting part was his condemning his own party -- which includes Palin although no one seems to know it.

my wife says that this entire speech -- evening is like an animated version of 'the book of revelations'. none of it makes any sense, but it's full of fear, ghosts, dragons, surrealism.

It's getting thick in there...

Better get a shovel. So far we have the typical, Dems will raise taxes, and want your healthcare run by lawmakers instead of doctors; not to mention the obligatory legislating from the bench line. I have heard it all before, in almost every Republican convention for the past 20 years.

Secure, new employment at a

Secure, new employment at a decent wage.

yeah, send them to India to be 're-trained'  LOL

McCain finally admitted it, "I will raise your Taxes"

Force people into health care????

Shit I thought disease forced that on everyone.

Find a new job that won't go away sounds like the return to slavery.

That's his solution give them a lower paying job.

Choice in education except in sex education????

What?

 Did he say to help teachers find another line of work?

indecision 2008 is all over the green screen

Liveblog is here.

Excerpt:

 

10:34 - I've seen Sarah Palin's speech. And this, sir, is no Sarah Palin's speech.


 

Susan Kitchens

You crap me up! 

As for the speech, it's quite possibly the worst I've ever listened to, other than his wife's earlier.

Palin/McCain

Half the country is afraid McC might croak in office, the other half HOPES he would...

 

OK, real job training, as he

OK, real job training, as he just laid it out, is not a bad program (why the jobs are lost is another matter); but he's now falling back on Choice for schools; that will be pushed in the next news cycle, Nationalized Choice. Old battle, not a new idea, but it's a wedge issue for some.

Oh God!

The rich get the education, the poor folks, not so much.

Who thinks he looks good in front of a bright backdrop?

He looks photoshopped.  I think they thought he would look better if his face is covered with more pancake than IHOP ever dreamt of.

fyi, from a policy perspective...

Obama has really bucked the teacher's unions in some important ways. it's controversial in many ways -- but he absolutely is not in the pocket of unions. mostly it comes down to the merit based pay, some limited choice and so on.

Drill Drill Drill!

More Oil, More War!

Ambitious project 700B

is he gonna do the Gore 10year plan?

They won't let him answer.

Waiting for the Drill chant. (I picture these big elephant trunks and elephants bobbing and weaving over the curving surface of the planet)

 

He's not happy with this speech

He delivers it like, reluctantly.

Code Pink

Without sounding *too* paranoid, I'm believing the Code Pink people are plants, or they were on purposely allowed in the convention. How the heck could they make it pass security otherwise? It makes the dems look distruptive and partisan; and it gave McCain an opportunity to show that he can "respectfully" handle oppossing POVs and distruptions, etc. Of course, the Code Pink protest & McCain reaction will be the main headline tomorrow morning-just what the McCain campaign wants (IMO).

Nice shot on cspan of

Nice shot on cspan of teenager yawning.

Is it just me, or is McLame really that lame.

Where's code pink!  wtf!

"We'll drill them now!..."

(crowd "USA!  USA!...)

We'll drill them now

We'll drill them now.

We'll drill them now.

WTF is he really saying?

INdecision 2008 funny

10:44 - From the comments: "'We believe in communities.' But we can't f($&ing stand anyone who organizes them!" - Derrick Clement

Ron Paul delegates silenced and intimidated at RNC

As I was coming home just now: A state Ron Paul delegate at the RNC called in to the local NPR station to report how the RNC was using private and convention security guards to follow them around the hall, the streets, and wherever they went. He said they were not allowed to vote last night. The security was really intimidating. 

He and his fellow Paul delegates were assigned seats, each alone, on the floor in different rows. When they tried, on Tuesday, to sit together (everyone was sitting wherever they wanted to within the delegation), 30 security guards with guns descended upon them, someone called the RNC Chairman, and they were forced back into their seats.

The guy said that by the time of Palin’s speech last night, most of the Ron Paul delegates in the hall had decided to bug off, and they filled the seats with high school students, which they apparently did in general because they couldn’t fill the hall.

He also reported that there are scads of armed guards with high-powered rifles in the hall but hidden from TV view under the various rafters. The guy remarked, “Shotguns?!? Ordinary handguns I can understand. But not these high-powered rifles with vests and helmets.”

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Two journalists on NPR said that he first time the term ‘maverick’ was ever used in connection with McCain was in 1998 with a bipartisan tobacco bill. The guy who really had the maverick term was a Republican from Oklahoma or Kansas who was also a John and whose name also started with Mc, I can’t remember it right now.

OMG

Could the delivery be any worse?!

Georgia! The 51st state

Move over, Iraq.

Steven:   The Code Pinkers

Steven:

 

The Code Pinkers are doing more harm than good. It only makes McCain look better in comparison.

And by prepaired for them

He means I'm ready to start another war with them.  The question of the draft had better come up during the debates.

World leader meeter?

Name one world leader he's met. I can't think of one.

I'm so Confused!

I swear, I am trying to stay focused, but it is tough. First O'Reilly Factor now this. He is just pathetically boring! And all of these RNC speakers, McC included, seem to be supporting different platforms. ("We won't let gov't make your choices for you." -- Except when it comes to a woman's right to choose, stem cell research, etc!) Ugh. Hard to follow their stream of consciousness.

Weird Pearl Harbor Story

First time he perked up, talking about his father being gone for 5 years...

I know how to clear my throat

But I'm a maverick, so I won't do that.

 

Alexa, thanks for that re: Paulites. "Freedom" is such a great watchword. "I hate war" (he says just now) but look at the goons with guns in here. In this very place. All in the name of Freedom and our beloved Fatherland.

When I was five...

Pearl Harbor was a attacked? Way to go, old man.

POW POW POW!!

Also, did anyone else catch the part where he said he was going to abolish unemployment insurance?

 

This is all very very light

This is all very very light on specifics. And what was said is, like the Obama campaign says, more of the same. The rest was all patriotic bluster. Did anyone catch the final score on the Giants game? 

Have to say it, the code

Have to say it, the code pinkers were the best part of the evening.

McLame is simply rehashing tired nostrums of the rightwing Republican hack.  Totally boring.

Yeah, Palin outshine's McLame, in a plasticky kind'a way.

Correction:

He HATES this speech. You can almost hear him curse the writer.

Is it over yet?

heh heh heh. He just said "information technology revolution" and "we have to catch up with history"

Yeah, you can do that if you do a google, Mac.

MCCAIN: I can write very

MCCAIN: I can write very long lists!

CROWD: First, second, third!

OMG OMG OMG

He just said MY FRIENDS.

Was that the first time?

I saw a black women

 Wow! This is a diverse group.

He admitted it

He finally admitted that his broken arms were not from torture but his ejection from the plane.

no more preznidents

with creepy smirks.

My Friends

Servant of the right is what you have become McLame.

Heroes!

Drink Up!

My administration will set a new standard for

transparency and accountability.

 

His tech policy does not use the word "transparency" at all. Barack Obama has had transparency/accountability in tech policy that's been out there all this year. 

Johnny Mac, he had him some long months of foregone conclusions that he was the Republican Nominee. Did he use that to put together comprehensive policy? I think not.

He chooses a veep and everyone wants to know how it goes and his peeps clamped down on it. Transparent. Uh huh.

Blessed by misfortune

And now he wants you to share in it.

'new standards for transparency'?

what is with this aping obama thing? he's opened the door for the keating 5 thing quite a few times here. what's with this 'obama wants to take credit' insinuation?

his smiles during the torture were spooky.

i think it's time for the media to press him on supporting torture.

'i like to pick a few fights for the fun of it'. there's locker room material.

He Picks fights for his own Pleasure

Just for fun!

Now he will just

Now he will just picks fights for America, rather than himself.

Well - I've stopped

Well - I've stopped watching.  But I love Ezra's description of McCain's delivery:

"I'd sort of forgotten what a bad speaker McCain is. I'd call it a collection of one liners, but it's more a string of lonely clauses. There's no overarching theme or message. The speech doesn't build, and thus the applause doesn't carry it along. Instead, it punctuates it, exhausting the force of McCain's words and forcing him to start all over on the next sentence."

KD

Code! he said code

rawk on. Dude's a geek.

What? oh......

This is suddenly like

This is suddenly like watching that Adam West as the batman.  POW!  POW!

A solemn promise

If we let him be president, will he PROMISE to never mention the freaking Hanoi Hilton again?  This is torture...

Can't stand to watch to

Can't stand to watch to checking out the liveblogging here and at Indecision 2008.  This from the comment section, LOL!

"We believe in communities"

But we can't f($&ing stand anyone who organizes them!

Imagine the repubs have

Imagine the repubs have Mccain and this disastrous speech and Palin who is a complete newcomer who took 5 whole days to rehearse and deliver that nasty, ugly, divisive speech. Well, thank God I am a democrat.

Interview w/ one of the protesters

Adam Kokesh, member of Iraq Veterans Against the War, 

Do you feel your protest was effective?

Well I wasn’t so much trying to interrupt the speech as make the point that McCain has a horrible voting record on veterans. The Republican Party is doing with their take on the war in Iraq is spinning it in such a way that it’s about victory or defeat. But they can’t face up to the fact that you can’t win an occupation. In an occupation, everybody loses. What we’re calling for is an immediate withdrawal of all occupying forces in Iraq.

Who will you vote for in November?

Bob Barr.

Some thots . . .

na-NAH na-NAH na-NAH na-NAH na-NAH, my friends, na-NAH na-NAH na-NAH.

So now he's the servant and Palin is the executive?

Ah, the POW story. He has to address it because the CIA released papers about John "Songbird" McCain in May of this year, and a few remaining living POWs in that same camp are talking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk

NOW

I have to tell you all, I was at the march on D.C. in 1995 for Biden's legislation for Violence Against Women Act.  I was on the Mall marching.  I am a NOW member and feminist with a big F.  I prosecuted Domestic Abuse as an Intern.  I will not back down.  However, my work tends to limit my ability to speak out.  Tonight, I can speak out.  It's my own words on my own time.

I love music and am a musician.  (Thanks AL) So, I use music to make my point.  Feminists need to unite AGAINST Palin.

This group is my anchor.  Yes, I am the music talker.  ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTPjWoXimc0

Join the ranks of the government

Isn't that growing government? Is this guy confused or what?

OMG, is he going to list "become a community organizer"

in his list of call for service.. to serve a cause greater than yourself.

Nope, guess not. oh well. Woulda rawked, if he did.

Teach a duck to read!

Nothing brings bigger happiness in life than to serve a cause greater than yourself.

That list of how to serve your country?

Isn't that the stuff of community organizing?

A cause greater than yourself

unless it's community organizing.

teach a republican to spell maverick with an "e"

man he's aping obama in a horrid horrid way these last 5 minutes. the 'volunteer' thing. this stand up stand up and fight is... spoooooky.

so, curious.  don't have a

so, curious.  don't have a tv.  how are the tv pundits reacting?

KD

Stand Up!

 Thank the Lord! It's over!

Whew! I did it! I made it through a whole John Sydney McDraft speech!

Now trying

to do a Schweitzer?

You almost feel sorry for

You almost feel sorry for the guy. He really is living in the past; can't let go of that part of his life and wants us all to be there with him. You know, we never did bring all the POWs back; you can still see the flags flying, rarely, but some have them. They were forgotten it seems; he wants to make sure he's not, I guess. Understandable, but really sad. I have a nephew cousin who's name is on the Wall, and I remember looking him up in the telephone book they have there, finding the name, and being overwhelmed by the vastness of the death on that wall. 

That is part of all of us. Just as this war is and will be. John McCain is not alone. But nor is he unique. 

We are all America. This fight is not his ground. This is our ground. And like he said; we have to fight for it in this election.

the crowd

I think the crowd got all excited all of a sudden because they realized he was wrapping it up.

 

"fight, fight, fight, fight, fight..." - I believe that's the definition of insanity.

Solid ticket

Palin will bring in the Christian voters, and McCain will pull in the sympathy voters.

God bless this is over

All just raising cain—exactly what these haves and have mores want to do, pillage and loot drill, drill, drill.

Fight Fight Fight

and why don't you want to just do what we say.

A Legend in their own minds.

LOL

defend the rights of the oppressed commentary on NPR.

"I thought he might be talking about defending the rights of the community organizers that were attacked last night"

Awesome!

@Julie

If you want to start a feminists field hands group on ning, I'm in.

Barracuda

oh, I get it now (music). heh.

Heart

Singing the Barracuda song. These people are not just to the right of Genghis Khan they are Genghis Khan, you know the guy who when he first saw the Chinese plains said kill all these farmers and tear down their houses so we can graze more horses.

Barracuda??????

What the heck?  They are playing Heart Barracuda.....omg. What an uplifting message.  I hope the Wilson sisters throw a fit.  Unbelievable. 

I loved the sign spelled

"MAVRICK"

The people on stage all just look relieved it's over, not energized at all. I feel them on that count.

I'm confused about what the "town hall" part was. I did run down to fix dinner for a few minutes. Did I miss something?

 

God bless John McCain. I've been trying to get the baby to sleep for hours and she was out like a light 5 minutes into his speech. I'll use the YouTube from now on, then.

I don't care what the

I don't care what the squares say--the code pinkers were the best part of the night.

Don't chicken little that they 'hurt' Obama.  "Ohhh--don't criticize the war or talk about maimed Iraqi kids because it hurts Obama".

Effe that viewpoint.  If they could have pied Cindy McLame it would have been the best.

Admits not perfect and implies the machines

"Make no mistake we will win this election."

Same said in 2004. That's called Diebold.

Ezra Klein again:"It would

Ezra Klein again:

"It would be nice if McCain would release a comprehensive list of things I should, and should not, do for my country. Yes to becoming a teacher, no to being in a teacher's union. Yes to fighting, no to community organizing. I need some sort of pocket guide."

KD

McCain had to be convinced, convinced!

to talk about his POW experience, according to the McCain spokeswoman.  She's never head him talk in such detail about it.  Are they high?  I mean get the 10 volume set on Amazon if you have to hear it again.  He should be president of Vietnam by this time.

@ Julie & Laura

 I am in too! Who want's to start the group?

NPR: Sarah is the celebrity, now

talking of viewership. Discusison is about how it sounds like McCain is running against Obama as tho Obama is the incumbent. Fail.

Laura?

That's a good point.  I quit NOW in my county because it fell apart.  I still fill guilty about it.  I was one of the leaders.  I should have shored it up somehow.  That's how I feel.  Fieldhand group?  It's so simple.  I never thought of it.  That is what is really sad.  Thank you.

McCain's tribute to himself...

Tonight John McCain delivered a speech about his own war heroism, other wars of the past, his passion to change Washington -- a city whose system he's served for 30 years -- and the need to stand up and fight as Americans, without specifying exactly who we should fight (though clearly he seems to be looking for a fight). If there was a single theme, it was his insistence that he had always served a cause greater than himself. And therein lies the glaring contradiction in this speech: McCain spoke constantly about himself, even as he insisted his service was not about himself. Down that strange hole of logic, most of the content of this speech disappeared. McCain offered himself up as a kind of avatar of selflessness, a kind of Mother Teresa of American Patriotism. How this relates to the decision that Americans have to make on November 4, he did not make clear. The speech was about himself. But this election isn't.

Josh Marshall is

funny tonight.  Excerpt:

11:01 PM ... I question the wisdom of not letting anyone in the auditorium under 50.

11:02 ... Nothing brings so much happiness as betraying all the ideals you said you believed in to try to take advantage of your last chance to be president.

Hey Julie Bays!!!

Loved your video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTPjWoXimc0

Hey, everybody, watch it. Our own Julie Bays!

corporate media watched a different speech...

they are all giving this "A" sort of raitings... as mentioned here apparenlty it is news that McCain was a POW.  I guess I don't understand the RNC mindset but this is just crazy.

i wish they'd at least acknowledge that the Dems outraised the Repubs 8:1 in the last 24 hours, from what we know.

I do think that they acknowledged so many errors and inaccuracies that you put them together and you get a trainwreck. There's no coherent narrative there -- no hero no villain. Are Repubs the villains? Is it the far right wing of his party? Is it community organizers? The elite media?

Either way, they / corporate media seem scared into their place.

Hillary

Tom Ridge...

Tom Ridge, on MSNBC just now, flubbed McCain's name and called him "John Bush".

Old Guy is done for the night?

Hey All,

Just made it back and read through all the comments just now - thanks to Susan Kitchens and Christi and Alexa and Dan and Steven H and all - sounds like you all were spellbound during this most moving, dynamic, historic speech tonight!  LOL. 

Seriously, the best part was when the grinning and stumbling and USA chants were all over huh?

What's the read from the talking heads? 

Wait. Alexa!

Alexa - I'm confused. Are you saying that our very own Field Hand Julie is also Linda Perry? Who knew?

Michael Gerson just made

Michael Gerson just made great comments on MSNBC. Phuck, I wish I could type fast, and I didn't have this keep-coffee-off-my-keyboard-condom to tap through.

Did someone catch Gerson, ex-presidential speechwriter?

Al! Then I am confused and I swear I have not been drinking

I thought that's what Julie was saying above. Outing her own name.

Al........what exactly do you mean with comment at 10:00?

I am seriously intrigued

more posts?

Hi Al, Have you gone to sleep or are you writing a kick ass synopsis? Just wondering if I should keep refreshing. Good night, if you are done for the night and thank you!

Best part: she works with her hands and nose

I guess that makes for a different interpretation of Barracuda. Doesn't make total sense to me, but it's suggestive-like.

I'm not Al, but I'll take a stab.

10:00 is the end of "tee vee prime time" as in, it's over.

Colbert is hot

How polite SP is First she said please when she asked for money for the bridge to nowhere.

Then she said Thanks when the 330 million dollar check arrived

Finally she said No Thanks to building the bridge when it became unpopular in the press.

Thanks Alexa!!

My son is named Alexi.  Well, he is Greek.  I mean really Greek.  His father was born in northern Greece.  I love Greece and the people there.  I miss it.  My son is named Alexander although he is Alexi to me. Alexi and I were talking about language tonight.  He is into Chinese in 9th grade even though he knows and learned Greek at an early age.  They do not offer Greek at his high school but he loves his Chinese class.  Why?  Well, as an ex-anthropologist, I believe that it is because he learned another language at a young age.  People who learn another language before puberty .... learn it well. Julie's sage moment.  ;-)

Chuckie T is bringing up

Chuckie T is bringing up Gerson's on-the-floor critique now. I remember Gerson saying, I paraphrase, that McCain only talked about being a past maverick, he needed to talk about being a future reformer and he didn't.

NPR Speech Grade: Academic Grade Inflation

A-minus FOR John McCain. Another gave him a B. eh.

AL?

Just because I have decided to quit being a lurker is no excuse for teasing.  Or, scaring me back into my box.  ;-)

 

"Alexa - I'm confused. Are you saying that our very own Field Hand Julie is also Linda Perry? Who knew?"

Trust me, I could get scared again but no, I am just a goverment worker trying to make a difference.

Yay, Linda Perry and the 4 non Blondes!!

 

 

 

Retirement Party

I voted for McCain (but not Bush) in 2000. I still harbor some respect for him and have tried to lay off the oldtimer jokes. I'm actually not trying to be insulting here, but his age + the themes and delivery of that speech just struck me as very poorly done. It was about yesterday. This felt like a retirement party.

"Thank you John, you have been one of this company's top earners. You've given 40 years of your life to Reagan & Sons and you've earned your rest. We 'd like to present you with this plaque as a token of our appreciation. Everybody give John a big hand, he's earned it. Would you like to say a few words?"

Then John gets up there and goes on and on and on. Only he gets confused and thinks he's there interviewing for CEO. Meanwhile the upper level management are in the back of the room drawing straws to see who has to break the news to the poor guy.

Halperin grade

I saw on Charlie Rose that he gave the speech " either an A- or B+. It won't hurt him or change the dynamic of the campaign." BTW the Redskins ran out a lot of clock late in the game tonight.

WTF???

David Gergen gives McCain an "A" for his speech, says it proves he will be a "formidable" candidate?

WTF???

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

@ Julie and Alexa

That's how rumors get started!

Diebold

"Make no mistake we will win this election."

Same said in 2004. That's called Diebold.

Alexa:  I had EXACTLY the same reaction to that comment at that moment in the speech!   Then I wrote myself off as a Chicken Little and felt better. 
That is chicken littling right, Al?
I have to admit that is the one thing I do worry about.

@Aranae

Perfect description! So sad but true. 

great catch, Alexa

Gerson's critique was spot on. Best analysis I heard all night. No one seems to get that he did nothing to get the undecideds and / or cross over Dems. i think the tactical error is that they thought that Palin would grab them -- afterall they are HRC supporters! when in reality, all Palin has done is reinforce (and maybe galvanize) the base. She did *nothing* to bring significant numbers of new people in. He absolutely missed it.

he's also defined himself like 7 different ways at this point. yes, he claims to be a maverick, but against what?

There are *soo* many open ended problems they have now. Just for one, he promises to slash pork projects, yet the news just keeps coming out how is own VP pick is redefining how much a single small town can grab.

Plus, he put most anyone who isn't a politics geek to sleep within 5 minutes, AND he reopened the green screen challenge.

 

Al, I love languages.

And, I hope my son learns many.  It is worth it.   I would love to talk about Chihahaua, Mexico someday with you and the influence of the Mormons.  It is OT but interesting.

So, did McCain hit it out of the ball park?  LMAO!

 

@ Julie

And I'm an Alexandria, not Alexa, in real life. I love Greece. I love the restaurants at night down the hill from the monasteries where you pick out your food in the kitchens and eat it under the stars by the water's edge. I love the ancientness of the place and how it talks to you, even in cough-inducing Athens. I love the white and blue. And the taxis decorated with pompoms and some mad man driving it with music at 200 decibels.

I dont know if you read it on the previous site, but i am adamant that every kid learn English, Spanish, and Chinese: anglo-saxon, romance language, and a pictographic language. It makes children extra-intelligent. Good for your son. I am muddling through Chinese myself. Know a smattering, and can write about 200 characters. Would give my eyeteeth to spend six months in Beijing learning it. Your son will be able to work anywhere in the world.

Grade Inflation: Halperin

My friends, Mark dispenses B+/A- on Charlie Rose. Phew. The sun will rise tomorrow.

Oh crap!

I might be a clarinet player but I am not one of the 4 non blondes.  I am a lawyer.  Okay?  I hope we all got that figured out.  I am a geek.  That's all.

Al, Julie

That's how rumors get started!

And it also shows, clearly, how dense I can be.

SO???

Who actually watched it?  I didn't.

New Thread Up

Enjoy!

Julie, if you're a lawyer,

Julie, if you're a lawyer, then you should know that it's illegal to try to pass yourself off as one of the 4 nonBlonds.  I'm just say'n!

McLame's speech sucked.

The lamestream has to act as though this was a solid speech because otherwise they would be accused of being unpatriotic, anit-POW.

Really, this speech was wooden, amorphous, and lame.

I can't see this convention bumping McLame up over Obama.

Cindy McLame was especially weird--mixing her history as an American saint with partisan vitriol in a flash of a second.  Acting as though she wants to help the starving children--and then showing up on stage with an outfit equal in value to a modest home in California or New Jersy.  Insane.

Am I so out of touch?--will the voting public eat this shit up?

A Convention Carol

"John McCain plays the part of the Ghost of the Republican Party Past."

"The Ghost of the Republican Party Yet to Come is played by Sarah Palin."

"The Ghost of the Republican Party Present is played by . . ."

[mumbles, shuffles paper]

"This just in.  There is no Republican Party of the Present."

 

 

Stephen?

I might be out of my shell but I never tried to pass myself off as a 4 non blond.  I am just posting and love music.  :-)  It's Alexa's fault.  ;-)

I found it sad, actually. 

I found it sad, actually.  The man is living in the wrong century, he's tired, he's worn. 

I love it!

 Blame Alexa!  Bu, bu,  but, I swear I read " I am the music talker" :-)) You had me! Glad you cleared that up.

Seriously

I am just now watching....the fact that anyone could give this thing anything above a C is just silly.

Halperin's B+

Interesting thing about Halperin's B+. I experience Halperin entirely through my RSS feed, and after every convention day there's always a post trumpeting the grades. Not tonight, no post on it. So then I thought, OK, let's go to his website ... nowhere to be seen. I had to click on the speeches for Wednesday's speeches, and only there did I see a link for the reaction to Thursday's speeches, and I only saw McCain's grade after seeing Ridge, Graham, and his wife. I swear I had to click ten times to see the damn grade.

I wonder why Mark doesn't want me to know he wussed out and refused to give an honest judgment of the speech.

Another way of putting this: good to know that in Mark Halperin's world, the gamut runs all the way from A+ to B+. 

Halperin

OK, the grade finally made it to the RSS feed. Sheesh.

christi

Christi, you are not alone!  That is exactly what I read, too:  "I am the music talker."  That's why I originally clicked the link, because I thought she was saying she was in it.  Not that it really matters now that the confusion has been cleared up, but I thought you might want to know that you're not crazy. 

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