The Competence Gap
By Al Giordano

A major party presidential campaign has hundreds of millions of dollars at its disposal. It can hire the best talent available at every level. When it screws up the simple things, that's an alarm bell to pay attention to the existence of a larger, behind-the-scenes, dysfunction.
Yet even in the case of, say, a town council election of scant resources, a union picket line or a modest demonstration or press conference for a political cause, every political pro, ad agency, PR flak and community organizer knows the importance of what we call "visuals."
You simply do not send your candidate or product out in front of the public and the media without constructing and controlling the panorama that will be in the camera angle. Political campaigns have an entire staff category devoted to that task: the advance team. Both parties have a cadre of professionals for that work at their beckon call. It's the first and easiest thing about organizing an event, and to mess it up is always an act of political malpractice.
In the case of the multi-millionaire presidential campaign of Senator McCain last night, that malpractice rose to a level of incompetence that sabotaged the most important night of his quest for the White House.
Many of us laughed last night when McCain appeared on stage in front of a lime Jell-o green background because we remembered the night of June 3 (one of the biggest Internet traffic nights of the campaign, when Obama clinched the Democratic nomination and McCain gave a doddering counter-speech from Kenner, Louisiana). His handlers had unveiled a new campaign slogan and color scheme, as seen in this photo:

Atrios noted at the time, "It'll make you look like the cottage cheese in a lime jello salad."
And Andrew Sullivan speculated: "I'm guessing McCain won't use that green background much in the future."
So did we all.
I'm convinced, after reconstructing McCain's visuals last night, that he ended up in front of the newly resurrected key lime colors entirely due to an accident caused by gross negligence. For all the hundreds of staffers and consultants receiving a paycheck from McCain and the RNC, apparently not one was dispatched to preview the news pool camera angle that would capture McCain's acceptance speech for all networks. Nobody bothered to do a real-time rehearsal or "walk through" of the visuals together with the camera angles in preparation for the moment when the eyes and ears of the nation would be upon him. This would have been particularly important given that he would appear in front of the gigantic TV screen with "slide show" images that has been the GOP convention stage all week.
So when a photo of what looked like a Southern plantation was astonishingly pasted up behind McCain for the first half of his loooong discourse, all that we in TV land saw was the green of the mansion lawn.
Meanwhile, the delegates and media in the convention hall saw both angles:

The political junkies among them - and they are legion - surely remembered the "Green Scream" from June 3 and must have been dying inside (or cackling, depending on whether they were rooting for the McCain-Palin ticket or not).
Which brings us to the next question: Why a mansion and a lawn as the visual? Let me count the ways that reinforced anti-McCain messages, undercutting anything he might say from the podium: One, it reminded of the many houses that McCain forgets he owns (and would prefer that we forget, too). Two, he appeared to be standing on its lawn (as in "get off my lawn you kids," and I had wondered for a moment if the Alaskan Independence Army had kidnapped the top of the ticket and replaced him with Mike Gravel). Three, the mansion was not easily recognizable by anyone. It reinforced nothing, and distracted all who, instead of paying attention to McCain's words, wondered what the hell was the point of that strange image on stage (or the revenge of the green on the TV screen)?
Josh Marshall dug deeper and concluded that the use of the image - which turned out to be of a middle school named for Walter Reed in North Hollywood, California - may have resulted from a "Google search" error by someone probably instructed to find an image of the troubled and scandal-ridden Walter Reed Naval Hospital in Maryland Washington, where wounded soldiers and veterans arrive from Iraq.
All this collided to put McCain back in front of that puke clover color that erupts volcanically after drinking too much green beer on St. Patrick's Day that three months ago had become, among the political class, a symbol for the incompetence of his campaign team.
Field Hand CarolDuhart, in the comments section, made an incisive observation:
The culture war and the war on diversity has its price. When you bash gay folks, you pretty much guarantee that all of the good theatrical people are "busy" when you need a good backdrop. When you bash unions, no good experienced sound people (plus the Republicans are cheap). When you bash community organizers, all of the folks who can be asked to volunteer their time in exchange for a free trip are unavailable, so no help in things like seating or hospitality.
(I do not discount the possibility that this might have been an act of intentional artistic sabotage by somebody from the creative class to whom the audio-visual tasks may have been "contracted out." What a rich irony it would be if this visual gaffe came as a result of the "privatization" and "outsourcing" of tasks that used to be done by campaign staffers. Like I said yesterday, we are everywhere.)
Mickey Kaus is also scratching his head at the content of McCain's poorly-delivered speech (in which audience reaction to his weird backdrop certainly played a role in damping down authentic enthusiasm to boost his morale at his hour of need). Kaus concludes the garbled nature of McCain's speech was the result of being micro-managed by incompetent handlers:
The speech reeked of extra cooks making too many unintegrated additions. What does it say about McCain's management ability if he let the process for this crucial effort get out of control? It's not like he didn't have months to prepare. Or were the months the problem? Palin's Wednesday night text, presumably written in a few days, was much better. Maybe the McCain campaign didn't have time to kill it with improvements.
Contrast all that with the Obama team's unparalleled competence in pulling off a much larger (and logistically challenging) acceptance speech in an outdoor stadium rather than a smaller indoor arena. We heard plenty of attacks (and Chicken Little beak squawks) in the days before Obama's August 28 speech. Wing-nut ministers of the religious right were urging their faithful to pray for rain (and mistakenly conjured up a hurricane to wreck the first night of the GOP convention instead). The outrage-du-jour was based on an aerial photo of "greek columns" being erected as part of Obama's stadium convention stage. But once the speech had happened, there was not a whisper of complaint nor an iota of mockery. Everything about that night - the stage, the sound, the TV visuals, the whole package (not to mention the candidate's speech and delivery) - worked impeccably to reinforce the image of a competent and bold leader in control of himself and a nation's destiny.
Fox News anchors and GOP surrogates like to mock the suggestion that because Obama is running a half-billion dollar campaign organization so efficiently that it's an indication of his executive skill. While I agree that it's not a talking point the candidate or campaign should push, I also think that the way the Obama campaign has been and is being managed does show a candidate and a team that is "Ready on Day One."
That's because "Day One" isn't off in some distant future, and won't wait until January 20, 2009. The US government is often referred to as "the permanent campaign." Well, if Rush Limbaugh can cower the US Senate and destroy immigration reform by flooding the Capitol switchboard, as he did in 2007, imagine what a presidential cell phone text message to millions of supporters could do the first time Congress balks on an important reform. This year more than ever, the campaign is the rehearsal for governance.
The ways that candidates and their teams organize on levels large and small do indicate much about how they will govern. There is a competence gap between the Obama and McCain organizations, and it's become very evident in recent weeks from the methods for vetting and choosing a vice president and introducing him and her to the nation to the production quality of the conventions themselves.
The competence gap is growing to become a bona fide campaign issue.
Nothing is ever so much about the future as it is about the present. The conventions have both gaveled to a close, the general election campaign is on, and between now and November 4, every day is Day One.

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Keep the focus on McCain
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 12:42 pm by Joy From Illinois (not verified)The only mention of McCain's VP pick should only be to cast a bright shining light on how rash, reckless and desperate he is and how very far he has strayed from the center. He is being held captive once again, as a P.O.W. No wonder he is so obsessed with saying it. He is now a Prisoner of W. This pick makes tranparent the fact that he is no longer his own man.
The far right wing radical faction of the GOP has completely hi-jacked his candidacy. If McCain were in charge of his own campaign, Lieberman or Ridge would have been his VP not this Ann Coulter with kids whom McCain doesn't even know. McCain is a complete puppet at this time and his puppet masters are the evangelical right.
McCain is now a tool of the evangelical right. He is the front the evangelical right is using to fool reasonable centrist voters. This is not a time to run a right wing candidate but they have clearly not ceded power to the centrist candidate they have selected to trick the voting public.
As centrist as McCain might have been, he has no power to be who was. He has become a tool and his (?) VP pick has made this fact absolutely transparent. We must destroy their tool. He IS the evangelical right now. This is the real hiding of the ball.
He has licked the boots of Bush, Rove, Limbaugh all of whom attacked him relentlessly in 2000 and destroyed his candidacy. No self respecting man would ever have anything to do with them. This man has lost all self respect. He is a broken man. Bush and the far right have done what the Vietcong could not do. The have broken John McCain.
John McCain is now a desperate and weak man. He couldn't stand up for his own principles. He couldn't stand up to the evil of Bush and Co. He is weak! How is he supposed to stand up to the terrorist of the world when he has bowed down to the likes of Bush and his legion, those most responsible for bringing America to it's current state of near collapse?!?!
Contrast that with Obama who was under all the pressure in the world from inside his own party, from the media every where to put Hillary ( and I do love her) on the ticket. He didn't cave in.
Who do you think is in the shape to defend America against threats within it's borders and outside of them? A shell of a man who couldn't stand up to the criminals in his own party and take control of his own vision and candidacy or a man who faced down threats and pressures from every side and did not fold?
It's Not the Green; It's the Speech
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 12:48 pm by Anonymous (not verified)Yes, the green background does no one any aesthetic favors, especially not-ready-for-matinee-idol McCain.
But the reason the green meme took hold was that McCain's speech in June was spectacularly bad, ferociously bad, election-ending bad. He grimaced that rictus ineptly and it made people cringe.
Further, and most important, the June green speech was the same night as Obama's primary-winning speech, which was a cathartic stemwinding stunner. It was compare/contrast night, and McCain showed badly. The green screen just became guilty by association with the awfulness of the speaker. I can't believe they let it happen again last night. (And I'm glad McCain's team's Google image search didn't turn up Rex Reed. Eeew...)
(Btw, it's not "beckon call"--though it has logic--it's "beck and call." You're so good, Al, you might as well be perfect.)
Point of process
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 12:52 pm by Al GiordanoJoy - I won't always approve "reposts" of comments from elsewhere, and it was a little much for you to post it on the previous thread and then post it again here. I've deleted it from the previous thread, and would ask that in the future commenters stick to conversing with original thoughts here rather than regurgitating product that already appears online.
As with when quoting from commercial media reports or other bloggers, when quoting ourselves, we should excerpt only part of it and simply link to the rest.
Also, for everybody's general information: in recent days some aspiring commenters have submitted comments that put the headline or too much of the text in ALL CAPS. Want to know why those posts haven't made the cut here? Because they have too many capitalized words, which make any website seem ugly and screeching. It doesn't matter what the content is: over-capitalization won't get past the goalie here!
(We can't complain about the lack of attention to visuals and quality elsewhere if we don't keep our own shop smart.)
this whole thing
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 12:55 pm by Chris Landry (not verified)is shocking in the incompetence it displays.
What the hell was a photo of the hospital going to do for McCain on TV, anyway? Nothing but make him look ill.
As for the speech: right on, Al. Good writing is done by one or two people. As a communications guy, I can't tell you how many well-written pieces have become crap because ten people needed to get their hands on it. I'm sure that happened to Grumpy last night.
Quite apart from everything else -- integrity, honesty, policies, readiness to govern -- Obama's camp is staffed by pros who know how to execute his vision for the campaign.
They may be the best we've ever seen.
Walter Reed Middle School
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 12:58 pm by T'ai (not verified)http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/mccains_speech_b...
Apparently the same school was used as the backdrop in The West Wing for candidate Matt Santos, a character whose story many have noted bearing some similarity to that of Barack Obama's political rise.
If this, rather than a Google Image Search mistake, was the reason for the choice of background, in the hopes of somehow evoking that story for McCain, it remains clumsy and poorly thought out, but also betrays McCain's deep desire to be in Obama's position right now.
Visuals for Cindy McCain
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 12:59 pm by RiverRed-Common Man (not verified)Al:
You are so hands on regarding your point of process comment.
Regarding the visuals, last night Cindy McCain was telling a joke or making a snarky comment during her speech and behind her on the screen was a a large field of corn. All I could think of at the time was this was a subliminal message that her joke was "corny".
I wonder if anyone actually took the time to sync the photos with the contents of the speeches.
And they had how long to prepare for their convention?
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:00 pm by Elizabeth DuvertThank you, Al. Great post on the incredible incompetence of McCain and the Republican Party displayed for all to see.
From the folder marked
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:01 pm by Tien Le (not verified)Unintended consequences:
McPalin = http://tienle.unfiction.com/pobamatus.jpg
compare the awful Bio videos from the RNC
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:01 pm by PalGirl2008 (not verified)with the amazing ones from the DNC.
Obama's introductory video was done by the director of "the inconveint truth" Guggenhiem, Hillary's funny and moving tribute was done by the people who had done "the man from Hope"
I was thinking last night that when I first saw the pictures of the RN and DNC stages, I thought to my self that the RNC one looked classier, cleaner, and better.....of course I was wrong :), because on TV the DNC stage was more dynamic, the speakers had better lighting ( Rudy looked like he spoke from a place in hell).
I know these things are small, but as Al has said, the visuals really make an impression that can help or hender the message, and the Democrats aced their test brilliantly.
Thanks, Al
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:03 pm by memphisblue4BO! (not verified)Thanks for the great work, Al. Very glad you and the crew were in Denver. Never prouder than seeing Barack making that speech on Thursday, last. Working in Memphis to make sure we bring in the Dems this Nov. Will raise a glass to all the field hands when that day is ours!
The orange suit
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:10 pm by Tien Le (not verified)At least the Obama campaign had the foresight to hold up all of Hillary's suits to see which one would look good on camera (that pic from last week). So much for the Republicans being masters at stage craft.
Campaign Competence
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:11 pm by Jack (not verified)While many do "mock the suggestion that because Obama is running a half-billion dollar campaign organization so efficiently that it's an indication of his executive skill", it does show that he knows how to surround himself with talented and competent folks, and knock off what was believed to be an unbeatable opponent. The man meets every definition of a true leader, in contrast with his recent opponents and especially with the current occupant of the White House.
Perfect analysis!
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:12 pm by Chris D'Amico (not verified)Hit out of the park again...
There is an excellent chance that it is this mental image -- the green screen closeup and the mansion/middle school long shot -- that people carry from this convention. It just makes you shake your head, thinking how they could have gotten this far in the first place.
My Bad...
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:13 pm by Pamela Hilliard OwensAl, I for one, am guilty of the "caps"...a holdover from my otherwise excellent public school education.
1) I learned to *type* in 5th grade on my grandfather's very old and very heavy manual typewriter, and of course there were no italics or bolds in those ancient days, so caps were used for emphasis.
2) It was also drilled into me to add two spaces after a period before starting a new sentence. I have since learned that is not one-space- only "AP-style", and find myself editing everything I write professionally to take out that extra space.
Old habits die hard (just ask McShame), and I am trying to change my evil ways.
I'm still on a PC; trying to become a Mac...
waterprise2 AKA Pam
Liberal with a Capital L!
Sorry Al!
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:14 pm by Joy From Illinois (not verified)I didn't see it on the previous thread so figured it didn't go through. That is why I reposted it.
Keep up the good work and thanks for keeping us focused.
Sabotage
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:16 pm by Okke OrnsteinIf I would pull off something like this doing some entertainment show I'd be fired immediately. But it's not just that picture and that obviously they never walked through the whole thing step by step as you normally would; the whole format of this night was wrong. They know McCain isn't a great speaker. These events are all about visuals, impression. So why place him in a position where he's visibly uncomfortable having to deliver a speech he doesn't like from an autocue he doesn't handle very well? These are too many blunders to be coincidental; this is what you do when you want somebody to fail. I think they screwed him over.
Staging and speechwriting
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:24 pm by Anonymous (not verified)To follow up on a comment from PalGirl2008, I too thought the RNC stage looked better than the DNC one when photos were first released. It is clear, however, one party planned with an awareness of TV, and one didn't. Although the DNC stage struck me as busy in the still photos, on TV the backdrop to the speakers was fine, and not distracting. With the RNC stage, TV viewers were either wondering what it was up there, why it was moving (the nausea-inducing flag), or why someone had chosen that image. It was distracting, weird, and unintentionally humorous.
I also think role of speechwriters needs to be brought to the fore, especially after the plaudits for Palin's speech. I may be wrong, but doesn't Obama write large portions of his major speeches? Comparing his remarks, both formal and informal, with The Audacity of Hope I am struck by how consistent the message is. This strikes me as a good way of assessing what his reactions would be in office. But if a politician is relying on speech-writers for what most Americans see, we don't have a true sense of what s/he knows or how s/he reacts. This is perhaps a long way of saying that another competence gap is in performance in unscripted remarks — witness McCain's strange interview of last week, and Palin's avoidance of the press.
The Green Screen....
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:26 pm by B (not verified)Stephen Colbert and his Colbertnation are gonna have a field day with this one!
Thanks for the mention Al
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:27 pm by CarolDuhart (not verified)And were worried about the Democrats screwing up this year?
While issues are nice, some people (maybe all people) react to the atmospherics and the totality of an event. Bad folks like Hitler knew it. Good people like Martin Luther King knew it. They knew that visuals and audio amplify a message, especially in settings where some folks may only experience the event second-hand by viewing pictures, newsreels, and sometimes listening to audio. I didn't listen to the speech, but just saw clips on tv and the Internet along with bits of prior tv coverage. It was bad-I remember a loud pink screen behind one speaker, and when I briefly saw the aftermath, the crowd itself looked gray, the posters flat, the whole atmosphere dragging. While I'm already an Obama Aunt, what does that do to people who respond to visual cues and are undecided?
The culture gap again: Maybe you can't get the kind of people who in their sleep put together those massive settings for rock tours because the two cultures can't even speak to each other, and the prejudice just seeps out when the fundi organizers talk to the hard-drinking, hard-toting pros. Maybe they are afraid that if they hoosh it up too much they will irritate the crackers that attend the convention, those who simply hate the cultural revolution of the 60's and would be freaked out at anything more colorful or daring than a Jetson's style backdrop. I mean, the average age there was at least 65-if there were more kids than Palin's there I didn't see them. The result of that is a drab, joyless extravaganza that simply didn't communicate to anyone younger than this 51 year old who remembers the lavish backdrops of the glam rock groups of the 1970's and the colorful psychedelic posters of the 60's.
Not only that, but I believe the Republicans are cheap-too cheap to hire people that can really pull it off. So they rely on the cheapest,most desperate talent they can find to do a quickie job. I remember watching tv last week and they were still building the set, and even then it looked plain and not very bold at all.
These people had months to do a much better design, to do a walk-through for the cameras, to have everything just so. Furthermore, since they were the later convention, they needed to be sure they could one-up the prior convention.
They did none of the above.
Video Screen Image
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:32 pm by Jay in SE WI (not verified)Haven't read through the comments - busy day! - but one thought about the Walter Reed google image theory: they were using a video screen, rather than a projection screen, I'm guessing (unless it was a rear projection...). Thus, they'd require some *really* high resolution images to avoid grainy-ness. That resolution is likely unavailable from google images. (I couldn't find one on a cursory search.)
Just a thought.
Carry on with productive discourse and action.
Walter Reed is in the District, not Maryland
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:47 pm by John Quentin HeywoodHey Al,
Walter Reed Army Medical Center is in NW DC (16th St. and Alaska Ave.), not Maryland.
Obama on sciencedebate
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:47 pm by Konstantinos Skarlatos (not verified)http://www.sciencedebate2008.com/www/index.php?id=40
Barack Obama has given his answers to the sciencedebate. Of cource they give the impression of a competent campaign that gave thoughtful, realistic answers to all questions.
I especially liked this answer to the national security question
"Another critical role for R&D in national security is energy. Our petroleum dependence continually threatens our security, and my proposals for accelerating new alternative energy technologies will be an important part of my national security R&D agenda."
So, not only will Obama invest 150 Billion USD to research and deployment of renewables, efficiency, transmission, but will in addition use part of the military budget and its top-notch R&D scientists to the gain of alternative energy and make reducing oil use a matter of national security. I think this is the only way that such an issue can be addressed seriously and quickly in the US, by making it a matter of national security.
Cudos to Obama and his advisors, this is very good policy that will make the US a leader instead of a hinderance to solving global warming.
projecting your image
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:54 pm by Absentee Bob (not verified)I think the green screen/Walter Reed thing is funny to those of us who follow this campaign close enough to instantly recall the lime-green backdrop from June. But to the low-info voter tuning in last night, I thought the repeated crowd shots over three nighs of the lily white GOP delegates interrupted by the cutaway to the same African-American vet in the black POW-MIA hat during the Palin speech for example, probably sent a subliminal message to all those hispanics, blacks, Asian, Arabs (in Michigan), and all the ethnic groups in America that the Republican party is not a place you can call home. I thought McCain might use his speech to make a play somebody but the flag-waving Caucasions. If he did, I missed it.
Another Example of Incompetence
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 1:58 pm by CarolDuhart (not verified)Which may be more dispositive (Al's favorite word) for this election is how they are sending Palin back to Alaska for 5 precious days (till Weds). At this point of a campaign, days on the road count. Obama knows it, Biden's a seasoned pro and knows it. They will be doing at least 2 interviews a day for 7 days a week. If there are off-days, they will be singular: just a day to catch up on a little rest or prepare for debates before hitting the trail again. They will be able to dominate press coverage everywhere McCain isn't because McCain will have no surrogate to get press time.
Worse, by going back to Alaska, the press will follow her-and get the opportunity to also interview all of those disgruntled people who apparently have a lot to say. She doesn't give interviews-the press will find people who will. She doesn't talk about what McCain wants to talk about-no chance to reinforce his message or reach out to people who simply don't know her well.
On the other hand, Biden's rollout was smooth as silk. He immediately joined the campaign and generated nothing but positive and joyous press, reassured wavering voters, and is reaching out to undecided voters as well. He's added a friendly, witting, reassuring note of stability to Obama's change message.
So Obama wins the competence argument there too.
gov from hell
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 2:04 pm by Barry CrimminsThere were some amazingly bad images all week. Even during the vaunted Palin speech the backdrop was supposed to be of some mountain vista but the base of the picture looked for all the world like flames. The result, whether anyone consciously noticed it or not, was that when the networks pulled in for a tighter shot, Palin literally looked like the governor from hell.
Competence
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 2:15 pm by ErinSiobhan (not verified)Thank you for this. The quiet competence of the Obama campaign is not often noted in the many discussions of his candidacy. My admiration for the team he has built and their ability to accomplish their goals has increased enormously as his campaign as progressed. More and more, Obama is demonstrating that he has the intelligence to develop a successful vision for the future, the judgement to select a capable team to execute his vision, and the charisma to inspire others to follow.
LOL@ Barry
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 2:19 pm by Christi DemuthI didn't watch Palin's speech, but that was funny. The Walter Reed middle school knew nothing about the use of the image and will be issuing a statement soon. I find it sad the McDraft people are so incompetent and still close in the polls. I get home in a few days, can not wait to get out there and do some good work for 'real change'.
Speechwriters
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 2:23 pm by Stephen C. Rose (not verified)Being colorblind I do not notice things like backgrounds. I think on content alone the Republicans have failed miserably.
Barack has a cadre of speechwriters -- at least three by a recent count. They are skilled in presenting things in the cadences and phrasing that reflect their candidate.
All told the professionalism and organization of the Obama effort as compared with that of McCain is as telling as it was in relation to the Clinton campaign.
Success = don't notice it; Failure = Noticeable
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 2:28 pm by Susan KitchensWhen it works and works well, you don't notice it. Good tools, good user interfaces, good settings and backgrounds, good "optics" work when they don't put themselves forward.
Bad tools irritate, bad user interfaces frustrate (and enrage), and bad settings/backgrounds crep you out, make you cringe, or make you delirious w/ laughter).
It isn't easy to make it look easy. It takes hard work. So when things come out weird, like this GetOffMyGreenGreenGreenLawn, you know they weren't working hard enough.
Another Mystery Solved....Maybe
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 2:44 pm by moondancer (not verified)Josh Marshall just posted that the School that ended up as McPOWs backdrop was also used by another candidate for president. Matt Santos on the later seasons of the West Wing. Hmmm
The message I got from this convention is that they don't have one. They're going to try and bully people into ignoring their incompetence and corruption.
Sympathy for the insulated Republicans
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 2:56 pm by Tien Le (not verified)I just handed off some voter registration forms, buttons and bumper stickers to a volunteer who wanted them for a wedding where the bride said it would be fun to take advantage of all those people in attendance to do some voter registration at her reception. During the course of my conversation with the volunteer, I mentioned to her that she could register the bride with her new name at the event, providing she planned to change her name. Then I mentioned that the bride and/or the groom could change their address on the form, too, if they weren’t already living together. We had to laugh because we both remembered a time when it was unheard of for a couple to live together before marriage. Now it’s not only commonplace, it’s actually normal now. I guess that’s one of the benefits of cultural revolution.
Who knew, however, back when we were experimenting with drugs and free love in Golden Gate Park and panhandling on Haight St., and going to jail to protest the Vietnam war that our little ‘revolution’ would still be causing problems forty years later? I was just a naïve runaway back then and later, when I laid down in front of a government facility on May Day to protest the war, I couldn’t have had an inkling that people were being so deeply traumatized by what they saw as treasonous rejection of what America stood for.
I didn’t even know what the culture wars were until I read a piece on the topic by Andrew Sullivan. Now I get that those same traumatized people are still suffering from it the same way John McCain is. They are still parked in that moment in time and can’t move forward. Perhaps it is because they realize, much as the sullen Confederates in the South have for over a century, that they lost that war and can’t forgive the victors.
America has moved on. Men and women can live together before marriage; women can have credit in their own names; women can stay at work while pregnant; gays are so far out of the closet that there’s no turning back; contraceptives are now readily available; girls can look forward to a life in professional sports, a woman and a Black man can both run for President without it being a gimmick. (This is not to say that we don’t have a long, long way to go, especially where civil rights are concerned.)
I almost want to say to these people, “I’m sorry. I had no idea this was going to be so difficult for you.” I think about how important it was to us to reach out to Hillary supporters and to heal the Party. Now I think there must be a way to reach across this huge divide to help heal a nation.
Palin zinger and Obama's comeback
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 2:57 pm by Absentee Bob (not verified)One of Palin's stinging lines against Obama during her Wednesday speech went something like this: "He never once uses the word 'victory' when discussing Iraq except as it relates to his own campaign." Nice one, right?
I happened to listen to a Fresh Air interview with Steve Coll, author of a New Yorker piece this week on the endgame in Iraq, in which he said (before the Palin speech) that David Petraeus NEVER uses the word 'victory' to describe the situation in Iraq because 1) it is too hard to define in the Iraq context and 2) the surge's gains are so fragile, and easily reversible.
Since Bush and McCain often invoke Petraeus to bolster their own positions, I say that Obama might use Petraeus's non use of the word 'victory' to caution us against the delusions of John McCain who once cheered on the Mission Accomplished mantra of GWB in 2003 and now wants us to believe again that victory is at hand.
Well it looks like McCain
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 3:00 pm by Micheline (not verified)Well it looks like McCain got 38.9 million viewers due to the football game.
Actually, it WAS on purpose
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 3:02 pm by James HaygoodHey, All, and Al,
I had that same reaction, that they must have screwed up and not seen the camera angle that would make a nice solid green background. Now this is my area of expertise, so here's the deal. You can't see it too well in the photo above, but in the wide shots you'll notice that the area behind McCain (the lower center of the grassy area) is artificially out of focus - it's photoshopped. They did that to the projected photo so that in the tight shot of McCain, the background would be a controlled, soft background, not a mottled grassy texture. So they actually did this on purpose, but idiotically unaware of the big fat one lobbed over the "Green Screen Challenge" plate.
And of course later after the background changed, it became a nice solid BLUE background which works just as well (actually given McCain's skin color you'd get better separation with the blue, because when setting up a screen like this for compositing what you want is a clear distinction between what you want to keep and what you want to replace).
So yeah. Stupid? You bet. But accidental? Nope.
38.8 million Americans..............
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 3:10 pm by anonymous (not verified)38.8 million Americans (Nielsen ratings) watched the incompetence of McCain's speech....
McCain's numbers should be tanking by the middle of next week....
You can see
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 3:22 pm by James HaygoodYou can see the out of focus background (prepped for McCain's tight shots) here.
joe biden at PA town hall meeting gave me chills
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 3:25 pm by Nancy M. (not verified)I just turned on the TV to watch MSNBC during my late lunch. They were showing a clip of Joe Biden at a town hall meeting in PA. Honest to god, what he said gave me chills. Seriously. I have Tivo so I was able to play it back so I could get it right. I hope someone caught this on video!
Biden: "Rick Davis said this election is not about the issues. And everything I saw at the convention demonstrated that... It was about how well-placed, and boy she is good, how a left jab can be stuck prettty good. It's about how Barack Obama is such a bad guy. It's about how, in fact, they got great quips.. Man, they were like the kids.. you know when you went to school and you were very proud of the new belt you had or the shoes you had and there was always one kid in the class who'd say, 'oh is that your brother's?' Remember that kid? That's what this reminded me of. 'Oh I love your dress, is that your mother's?' You know what I'm talkin' about."
<Here it comes>
"What do you talk about when you have nothin' to say? What do you talk about when you cannot explain the last 8 years of failure? <standing ovation from the crowd>
"What do you talk about? What do you talk about? You talk about the other guy. Look, I don't have to... Remember what Harry Truman said? No, I wasn't around when Harry Truman was around. <missed a couple words> someone said "give 'em hell Harry" and he said 'I'm not gonna give 'em hell; I'm gonna tell 'em the truth and they're gonna think it's hell'."
For Palin it DID work
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 3:25 pm by Okke OrnsteinAt least according to Rasmussen. They wanted to get across this image of the tough talking gal, neither afraid of mooses nor masses, and that part of the plan worked.
And another thing
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 3:27 pm by James HaygoodThey DID contnue mocking the "Greek columns", as I recall in both Guiliani's and Palin's speeches, referring to the "styrofoam columns"...
taxes
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 3:35 pm by Anonymous (not verified)McCain and company keep saying Obama will raise folks' taxes -- in ads and speeches. They are lying and Obama has replied in speeches, but I'm not sure that gets through to people.
I'm hoping that Obama is waiting, waiting until the debates to pounce on McCain and, in a dramatic fashion, say, you have been lying about my plan for a long time even when corrected. How, then, can the American people trust anything you say?
Al, I felt so uneasy about
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 3:37 pm by Anya (not verified)Al, I felt so uneasy about McCain’s speech. I could not put my finger on why it made me feel sad – I had to sleep on it. Today it hit me, it gave me the feeling of a eulogy in a funeral. They dwelled so much on his past that it felt like they were celebrating his life. I don’t know why they went with that. Also, the images of 9/11, the slide show showing solders, the Vietnam memorial were jarring.
Since I am a naïve-tree hugging-peace loving young woman, I called my 73 year old grandmother, who is undecided (was until Palin) and she more of less felt the same. She also told me that Palen was a risky choice "a risk a 73 yearl old should have known better than to make." She also found her to be mean and devoid of substance. It remains to be seen what her impact will be on the larger voters but she seems to be rallying the base.
Sarah Who
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 3:47 pm by Kevin Hayden (not verified)Once we get past the Anniversary Day the GOP has expropriated as their own (commemorating the day the warning memos Bush ignored came shockingly true), it'll be nice to settle in, blog about John and Barack - because that's who voters vote for - and leave the mention of the one-hit Alaskan wonder to the white male redneck bloggers her selection was really designed to appeal to.
I don't buy the concept of 'don't underestimate her.' I do, however, know that sex sells in advertising, so the guys who'd choose Bush because he 'seems like a guy I'd like to have a beer with' can be expected to follow the similarly shallow rationale of voting for the Palin-McCain ticket because they'd like to 'do her'.
So I'll blog about the ticket toppers. For the Mayor of Mooseberry RFD, I'll only mention indictments and investigations and ignore the personal side. I'm not gonna get drawn back into discussions of the side the GOP wants the focus on - the personal - for obvious reasons.
Besides, after unleashing the cheesiest sophomoric amateur snark I could muster (while high on Twinkies), there's just no way to top it, (or out-cheesy it) with actual facts:
http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2008/09/03/sarah-does-the-rnc-pt...
Nancy M@3:25
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 3:56 pm by bonkers (not verified)Just saw that clip on the MSRNC site (not sure how to link to those), and had similar reaction. Biden was absolutely perfect in his words and delivery. Really feeling confident in this ticket to handle all the spin. For those who haven't seen it, be on the lookout for this clip on YouTube...it's worth the wait!
Although, there was a clip of Obama talking as well, and note to his campaign - Don't make jokes about terrorists bombing America, whether it's Wyoming or NYC. Barack starts laughing when saying something like, "What are they gonna do, blow up a bunch of grass in WY?" Uhhh...love ya man, but damn this is pretty basic.
Why is this concept so hard...Less is More. Answer the question clearly and ask for the next question. Obama had answered a question and just kept stammering on and on and then said the above. Less is more. Rinse and repeat.
The competence gap and ideological self-righteousness
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 4:07 pm by Karen DesmondAllan Brauer in the last thread linked to a great article by Frank Schaeffer in the Huffington Post describing a type of Republican facism - on evident display over the couple of days of the convention, and exemplefied in the pick of Palin.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/sarah-palin-americas-lips_...
Here's a compelling quote from the article:
I remember early in the primary season NPR did a radio debate between all seven of the democratic candidates. I wasn't very familiar with Obama back then, but I was impressed with his answer to the last question of the debate. The interviewer asked, when you leave office, what would you like to leave as a legacy of your doctrine, what would the <insert candidate name here> doctrine be? I think Obama went last, and he said something to the effect of "I hope there would be no Obama doctrine. This is what is so troubling over the last 8 years, our president is an ideologue, our administration is ideological, and everything is subservient to that ideology."
This is what worries me when I hear such nastiness and vitriole coming from the Republicans over the last 2 days. We don't want another president in office who sees everything in black and white and right and wrong and is willing to trash every procedure and law to serve the "right."
KD
Karmically Delicious
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 4:08 pm by Anonymous (not verified)After Palin's sneering crack about Obama's styrofoam columns, it seems somehow appropriate that McCain's backdrop would smack of gross incompetence...and with such an intriguing symbolic twist: wrong on Walter Reed/wounded soldiers.
PS. About that image - wonder if the flag was actually hanging on the middle school doorway or if they photo-shopped it in. Ah, the patriotism!
Charts and Graphs Ross Perot style
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 4:28 pm by Catherine CainOne of the appeals of the little strange guy from Texas, Ross Perot, was that he knew how to convert somewhat complex talking points to reality with his charts and graphs. While I know SNL mocked it later, I thought it portrayed him as open and sharing his thoughts and ideas in an adult format and he ended up getting a HUGE percent of votes considering he was a third party candidate and previously not that well known. So on the issue of the Repugs distorting Obama's tax plan, I wonder if the Obama team is considering something similar for the next 60 days - to convert his ideas of change to a charts and graphs presentation. Thoughts?
p.s. maybe with a picture of 7 houses of different values representing 7 different tax incomes. hee hee
One of the basic Tenents of my Faith
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 4:29 pm by We won't get fooled again (not verified)Is Karma.
Just stick with me with me here a minute I know many might not appreciate my take here, but it just is so John Lennon Instant like...
You get back what you put out there. McCain throws out the unfounded incompetence and inexperience acusations at Obama all week long.
Look what he gets in return incompetence and inexperience in his own campaign multiplied and sent out on the day he should be riding high, for all the world to see.
Karma, an equal opportunity kick in the ass.
Putting a sock in it
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 4:32 pm by Anonymous (not verified)OT: Can we at least conclude that the McSame campaign is continuing in the hallowed tradition of Bush/Cheney putting the kabosh on any investigation of Palin's legal challenges? It's a seamless continuation of a heinous practice. Are we inured?
Is it right
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 4:56 pm by Anonymous (Gemma) (not verified)that Gov. Palin apparently repeated the community organizer jib at an event today? Guess she hasn't learned that whilst the immediate crowd you talk to think it's hilarious, plenty of people in the wider audience are not impressed and all she does is fire them up.
If so here's hoping it has the same impact on Obama's fundraising and the volunteers!
@Catherine re Ross Perot
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 5:07 pm by Karen DesmondCatherine - I think that's a great idea. I was thinking along similar lines - like a list of important numbers any Obama supporter should know (see this diary on Kos, regarding the lie that is propagated right now by the Repubs re Obama's legislative record
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/5/04916/71376/372/587456)
If we could put the important numbers (95% will receive tax cut, 10 billion a month in Iraq, McCain votes 90% of the time with Bush, etc) in an easily recalled format (either visual, or maybe even mnemonic - anyone any good at writing limericks out there?), it could be pretty cool. Remember - we are the campaign war room (as Al said)!
I'll try to gather what I can myself over the weekend.
KD
Campaign Email and Text Messages
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 5:12 pm by jpayne (not verified)Al, I think you bring up an important point about theoretical "presidential text messages" that I hadn't thought about before and really reinforces the community organizer idea and movement of the campaign. There is no reason to assume that the day after the election the communication to all of the campaign supporters would end. Instead, as the team transitions to governance, the messages will reinforce the ideas and initiatives of the new administration! A nationwide coordination of motivated supporters and organizers is something I wouldn't have believed possible before.
Underestimate?
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 5:57 pm by Okke OrnsteinKevin Hayden wrote:
I think it has to be taken a bit more seriously than that. I linked to a story about a Rasmussen poll earlier, which reports that Palin is now more popular than Obama and McCain:
It's not just sex, but her whole image of the moose and bear hunter, one of the boys, bush planes and salmon fishing, the great outdoors, lone ranger who takes on the bad guys while moving around oil pipelines and takin' no shit from nobody - Americans love that stuff. Some of the biggest brands of the country are built on it. She is the female Marlboro man, and many will understand or just don't care if she cut a few corners as mayor or governor or got some asshole trooper fired or whatever. Got $27 million in earmarks for Whateverville? Good for you, the federal government would have wasted it anyway. Palin could launch an outdoors clothing line or her own brand of fishing gear tomorrow and it would be an instant hit. So her speech was not really a speech and her ethics suck. So does WalMart, but it's still the biggest retailer of the country. And Marlboro gives you cancer.
Obama can't compete with that "brand image" because he is perceived as "urban" and too refined to be carrying dead reindeer around. Biden is probably doing well just pointing out the facts while being above it all, but the only person I see on the Dem side who can really hurt "Palin Power" is Hillary, because she has a similar roughness about her but with actual brains.
Update: There we go.
If MiddleSchoolGate turns out to be true...
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 5:16 pm by James David Walley (not verified)...it will be the funniest convention flub since the G.O.P. fiasco of 1992, the Buchanan/Robertson "Culture War" gathering where the closing get-all-the-candidates-posing-on-stage-together was accompanied by the orchestra playing a Broadway show tune...from La Cage aux Folles.
As I recall it, the Republicans didn't do too well that November, either.
Biden clip
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 5:36 pm by bonkers (not verified)Here's that clip of Biden. How to talk to Repubs and answer the Noize Machine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEfwX6WWsKY
Good example of how bad (and typical) campaign reporting works
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 5:47 pm by Karen Desmondhttp://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=09&year=2008&...
KD
Palin's speech
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 6:01 pm by Redshift (not verified)Contrary to Kaus' speculation, it's been reported that Palin's speech, other than the biographical elements, was written for a generic VP candidate well before she was chosen, and then "softened" a little for a female speaker (not that anyone could tell.) But considering the reports of round-the-clock coaching of Palin, it may well be that the McCain team was too busy making sure she didn't bomb and forgot to make sure <em>he</em> didn't.
From the Okkie link at
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 6:07 pm by Jeanne in AZ (not verified)From the Okkie link at 5:57:
"Mrs. Clinton always faces high expectations; Ms. Palin faced low expectations this week, and benefited from them. Mrs. Clinton can seem harsh when she goes on the attack; Ms. Palin has shown a knack for attacking without seeming nasty. "
Whoa there... without seeming nasty? Now that's a stretch.
Re: charts and graphs
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 6:07 pm by Allan BrauerHere's one from the Washington Post comparing the candidates' tax plans. Pretty good at-a-glance graphic.
Palin
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 6:13 pm by Paul StollerBased on the poll numbers we have seen since Palin's speech I find it very dubious that Palin is having that significant of an impact. Perhaps the McCain ticket will see more of a bounce going into next week, that remains to be seen.
She may have gotten high favorables, but I think it is a stretch to claim that she is more "popular" based on that poll question.
A more accurate assesment could be obtained if they had asked the question does Palin being on the McCain ticket make you more or less likely to vote for Obama. Just because she has high favorables doesn't mean folks are more like to vote for her. Plus if the media ever gets to actually question her on the issues I'm 110% certain those favorables will drop, and if the media is kept from questioning her on the issues I have a strong feeling her negatives will be driven sky high. This avoiding the media will backfire eventually.
Considering the fact that
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 6:24 pm by Jeanne in AZ (not verified)Considering the fact that the press was attacked by the right and now is being stonewalled in being given access, it is astounding the amount of spin and happy talk surrounding McCain and Palin in the media today. Take for instance the headline at Yahoo a couple of hours ago: 4 Out of 10 View Palin Favorably!! Um... that's not really that great, now is it? What is with the cheerleading?
Palin's Popularity
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 6:24 pm by bmack (not verified)She's only spent a week getting beat up, compared to the many months of the other two.
This is simply too unbelievably cheap.
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 6:46 pm by CarolDuhart (not verified)http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/5/153224/4904/749/588112
This is too funny, they did not even take their own pictures, but used stock footage for the backdrops! Talk about cheap..couldn't they have hired a photographer to get original content that they could have used instead. For what they have spent on the convention they could have easily hired someone to create original content that would go with their theme.
Stock photos are great if you are doing something office-oriented and generic like announcements or birthday cards which will have to be done on a small budget and repeated.
At this point somebody would bring up the fact that Kos used stock footage for his blog. That's true in the beginning, but as soon as he could afford it, he bought the rights of that graphic so he could use it on merchandise. If Kos could do it, the Republican Party certainly could do that at least, or even better, create their own stuff.
Response from the school
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 6:47 pm by Anonymous (not verified)I hope I'm not duplicating a post above, but this afternoon representatives of the school have something to say. The school board member for this district doesn't think McCain has the right to showcase the school based on his policies.
Over at TPM: http://tinyurl.com/5s9nfe
New Rallying Cry
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 7:00 pm by ClementeR (not verified)It's the stupidity, stupid!
(Apologies if someone has already coined the phrase.)
Jeanne@6:24
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 7:15 pm by bonkers (not verified)What is with the cheerleading?
The "cheerleading" has been the centerpiece of the BigMoney plan for decades. After the social upheaval of the 50s and 60s, BigMoney, the mega-mega-rich developed a plan to put the lid back on the Liberal can. There are all kinds of memos from various "think tanks" detailing this from the late 60s and early 70s. Controlling the message was at the top of the list.
So the plan called for consolidating as much of "the media" as possible and eliminating any government involvement in the process. They succeeded in these plans fairly rapidly and have been controlling the public discourse for a couple of decades now. This is why people keep voting in politicians who constantly sell out those voters' best interests. The hypocrisy and lies of the Booshes, McInsanes and Repubs in general would be exposed often with simple reporting in it's purest sense. People like Shrub would never be elected if "the press" did their job even the smallest amount.
I actually think we've been able to influence the messaging more this year than I can ever remember. The rise of the New Media, and the organizing we've been able to do for pushback has helped. We've got Olbermann, Maddow, The Daily Show (how sad is that!), and so on gaining larger and larger audiences. It's getting better, but we still need to grow the New Media audience 10 to 20 times bigger than it is now in order to really combat these fools IMO.
So, spread the word everyday about places like The Field. We all have options now.
Tweety calls McCain "Mrs.Doubtfire"
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 7:24 pm by Jonathan Jacobs (not verified)From Chris Matthews
McCain as Repug maverick is like Robin Williams dressed as Mrs. Doubtfire.
I expect Jed will have the video up soon.
bonkers @ 7:15
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 7:57 pm by Karen DesmondThe thing that really gets me are the lies. If all reporters would do is fact-check whatever people say that would be fine with me. How hard is it to say: "That is a lie." But they fudge around, say that someone has given a great political speech, etc., even though it is full of lies. Al, you're the journalism guy here, and I don't know if there is a journalist's code (like the doctor's do no harm), but surely that must be the primary thing a journalist is charged with doing - seeking truth.
But I think (maybe) the American people too may be just getting a bit sick of the lying. Since Clinton's lie, we have been treated to hundreds of lies from the Bush Administration (I think there was some study that came out recently that documented just over 900 hundred lies about the Iraq war), and now McCain is doing the same outright lying - i.e., Obama will increase your taxes, and they are not calling him on it.
KD
I think McCain has hurt himself badly
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 8:22 pm by Blue_SD (not verified)Last night's speech was awful in terms of both delivery and imagery, but what was striking to me is the fact that John McCain completely destroyed what little was left of the experience argument. In fact, he reminds me a lot of Hillary Clinton during the primaries - when she was comfortable it was all about her experience and inevitability, but once the shock of Iowa and the dismal internal polling showed up on the radar, she tried to co-opt Obama's change message, with disastrous results. When given the choice between real change and change-lite, the people will mostly go for the real thing. Interestingly, Hillary switched back to experience after February, but her lack of an overriding message hurt her.
I see the same thing in John McCain - he can't decide what line of attack to use. Today, it's that ad with the grating narrator that sounds like my angry grandmother. Tomorrow, it will be experience. I'm not worried about the right-wing this time around - they were fully mobilized in 2004, and at the height of their ascendency, still only managed to beat Kerry by 3% and 100,000 questionable votes in Ohio. This time, our base is energized, we're working on the Independents, and the competence gap, as Al brilliantly puts it, is the largest I've seen since Clinton-Dole. Perhaps it will start to approach Nixon-McGovern levels soon.
Lies and other trivia
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 8:30 pm by Julie BaysKaren: I agree about the lies. It drives me absolutely crazy. My poor sister keeps calling me half hysterical about it. I have sent her a link to Al's blog. It helps my sanity and I figure it might hers.
Ugh. I do have a piece of trivia tonight. It just so happens that our weekly alternative newspaper ran a piece on a very special ad man. This ad man is named Fred Davis. Yes, the one that Rick Davis blamed for the infamous Walter Reed Middle School photo. He happens to be the nephew of our own "infamous" James Inhofe and an okie. You know, I love my town and I have made a good life for myself in Oklahoma but dammit!!! I hate living in a red state. Although, taking a cue from Al, I figure I am better off being here doing what I do then moving to where most my family lives, which is in California and Indiana....
How can change happen if you don't sit in the reddest of states and push the boundaries?
Anyway, I was starting to rant. Here is a truncated article on the guy. He was the "genius" behind the celeb ads too. I think he is living in a different decade before teh internets. Here is the link.
Fred Davis
@ Catherine and Karen
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 8:33 pm by Chris Landry (not verified)One of my specialties is making visually engaging slide sets, usually in Keynote, which is miles ahead of PowerPoint. I'd be happy to help put something together if you need help, but I won't have any time to gather data any time soon.
There are lots of cool ways to present data so that people get it. This would be a fun challenge.
celandry45[at]comcast[dot]net
@ Chris Landry
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 9:13 pm by Karen DesmondThat sounds great. I'm going to look at the numbers in the economic plans this weekend - if anyone else wants to do any others?
KD
Bonkers, you provided a
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 9:23 pm by Steven HuntBonkers, you provided a cogent analysis of what we are facing.
"Truth'" is what you fight for and establish as being manifest, reality--it unfolds, and is in a different level of logic than 2 + 2 = 4. Truth is a different animal, it is dynamic and ecstatic.
The population is under the thrall of massive, incessant corporate propaganda. They manipulate perceptions and attitudes.
The lack of substance from McLame and Palin is a perfect example of how the plutocracy controls the game.
There exists a vast web of symbology and ideology that undergirds the US collective conciousness. Huge swaths of alienated, exploited citizens DON'T vote. We have to try to change that in a relatively short amount of time. The US public is a bewildered herd that is subject to incredible brainwashing, and this is tied to business and major economic players.
Instead of being lost in the fun-house we have to organize our way out.
Obama is trying, but we have to buckel-down in these last two months. Focus on the issues, and don't become distracted by extraneous bull shit.
On the policy/ideas front, we win. On the level of knee-jerk ideology and fear, they win.
McLame is McSame as Bush. Why would you reward a political party and ideology that sells out America.
In my view O-man needs to ramp-up the economic populism going into the homestretch.
Don't panick--our instincts and ideas are better than the folks we oppose. Let's drive that home.
Okke--wow, I love what you say here. You're onto it! Let's look for those openings that the plutocrats and their robots have left undefended.
Chris Landry, please email
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 9:23 pm by Steven HuntChris Landry, please email me at ecocentricsolutions@earthlink.net.
Julie, can you link your
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 9:26 pm by Steven HuntJulie, can you link your group's most excellent song--"Spaceman".
I love that song.
@Chris Landry - Thank you!
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 9:38 pm by Catherine CainYour offer sounds really interesting. Besides pointing out the tax cut difference to individuals, it seems some of the arguments (lies?) are about how small businesses would be taxed under an Obama administration. I think that's a huge fear. This weekend I will try and pull together some numbers to give to you to chart.
Also, the other economic issue is cap and trade. Quite frankly, I think Obama doesn't do a good job of explaining this. I don't get it anyway. I don't know, beyond the obvious simplistic definition, what it really means economically to the average voter. How does it indirectly or directly affect their pocketbook? To me it's a throwaway line when he's talking about global warming. Again, some graphs that tie the economic to the global warming aspect of it would make it much more meaningful. Right now, I wouldn't doubt the average voter is thinking, "hmm, so maybe that means he is against free trade, huh?"
Another Biden clip
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 9:49 pm by bonkers (not verified)Here's another Biden clip from today. Just as good as the other. Damn, he could become another cure for chicken-littleism:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/obamaroadblog/gG5cnG
Fired up!
Overshadowing
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 9:49 pm by Carrie (not verified)Hey Al and All,
I have heard that one of the first rules in picking a VP is that they do not overshadow the candidate. Well clearly McCain is in danger in this area. So I am wondering why that is such a no, no. Besides the sort of obvious things.
Obama/Biden and the press
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 9:56 pm by Kat (not verified)Just read that Biden is going to do the full hour of "Meet the Press" and Obama is going to do ABC This Week. Good. If McCain is spurning the press, let our guys take up the media time.
McCain thinks he can win this election with talk radio and People Magazine. We are all going to find out if he's right.
voter registration stats
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 10:04 pm by Amy van der HielVia Hillzoy, Edge of the West has some numbers on new voter registrations. No wonder the Republicans now see community organizers as a new enemy! This is amazing - when you see it in one place and think "one at a time, one at a time" the small drops in the bucket are making a new powerful wave - well done, all!
See his original post for more info.
Re: charts and graphs
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 10:18 pm by Riley LynchThe Washington Post graph that Allan links to is deceptive, if unintentionally so. It provides an "average cut" for each candidate's tax plan, but in this case the "average" is significantly distorted by outliers. Fewer than 3% of U.S. households have incomes in excess of $200,000. If you take an average across the other 97% of U.S. households, Obama's tax plan provides greater average savings. It's not until you factor in households with incomes greater than $600,000 (less than 1% of the population) that McCain's plan appears to provide greater "average" savings.
Put differently, Obama's plan provides greater average savings for 99% of the population. The Post ought to have called this out.
I'd be glad to share my spreadsheet on this.
Other thoughts
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 10:13 pm by Tara Van NimanCatherine/Karen/Chris - you could embed the calculator that someone had linked to the other day. Who was that? Remember, you enter your income and it would show your Obama tax cut. I would like to see the McCain numbers side by side. How can be so friggin' difficult to get the word out that taxes on those making less than $250 go down?? And there's another ad out today saying, "Obama will raise your taxes."
I sure hope you're right about the average Joe being able to (eventually) detect the competence gap. It seems to me we are in some pretty uncharted territory here. This election is starting to become American Idol Meets the White House. I just hope folks treat it more seriously than that. I like George Clooney but that doesn't mean I want him to run the country. But what about the population at large?
Also, has there ever been a VP candidate that overshadows the Pres?? How does that play?
Virginia
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 10:32 pm by Dona HickeyThose 30 offices in Va are making a difference: 8 out of 9 eligible voters are now registered. Kaine has vowed a clean election with no lines for hours and many, many officials dedicated to monitoring machines and poll locations.
Re: Virginia
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 10:43 pm by Paul StollerThat is very encouraging.
registrations
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 10:43 pm by Catherine Cain@Amy,
Thanks for posting this as -wow - I didn't realize there was this type of disparity in the numbers of Democrats to Republican new registrations!! How exciting! I just sent it to all my friends who need to get out and do some work on the weekend for that Obama guy.
It would be great to see the breakdown by party in some of the other swing states but I guess that will remain a wish only if the state doesn't report it.
I'm going to Georgia to register voters even though CV is that it won't go blue this year . I'm going to do my part to prove them wrong!
@Riley - yeah, I noticed the same thing about the average - it's really a meaningless number the way it's shown.
@Tara - don't those stupid ads drive you nuts! And people totally believe it. Most of these guys I work with in Chicago (who like to fancy themselves upper income but don't want to admit that we all know they make less than $250,000 a year) all talk about how Obama is going to put them in the poor house. I swear they were all brainwashed about Democrats = high taxes before they were potty trained.
Get Off My Lawn
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 10:48 pm by Left Coast Tom (not verified)Two, he appeared to be standing on its lawn (as in "get off my lawn you kids," and I had wondered for a moment if the Alaskan Independence Army had kidnapped the top of the ticket and replaced him with Mike Gravel).
I had no inclination to vote for Gravel, but I have to say that nobody willing to go along with the ObamaGirl act fits the "get off my lawn you kids" profile. Gravel at least has a sense of humor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI6PA4v6dZg
McCain on the other hand...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7YTf08xjpE
Tom.
What I tell my sis.
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 11:13 pm by Julie BaysStephen Hunt:
Did I promise a song last night? No wonder I had a headache at work today. ;-)
I am not a 4 non blonde!!!
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 10:57 pm by Julie Bays:-) I love this song though. Music. Natalie Merchant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrlZ1w7XHfw
West Wing? I vote for artistic sabotage
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 11:28 pm by Jamie (not verified)T'ai and Moondancer, the coincidences are just too amazing. First confuse the hospital for the middle school, but not just any middle school, but one used in a TV show. I bet Al is right. Sabotage!
Second City vs. Wassela
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 11:46 pm by Bill ConroyI've been crunching some numbers for a different project, but I ran an excel calculation for this comment, because I think it is rather telling in light of Al's blog entry. (Though given the hour, I'm quite convinced I'm pissing numbers into the wind here -- which seems to be par for the course anyway -- but what the hey.)
For what it's worth, Federal Election Commission records show that for the entire 2007/2008 presidential election cycle through July 31, McCain's official campaign committee (John McCain 2008 Inc.) spent $1,664,225.77 on "staging; staging/equipment installation; staging/equipment rental; staging/equipment purchase."
Obama's campaign committee (Obama for America), by contrast, has expended $56,611,609.75 on "staging, sound, lighting" over the same period.
Now this a rough calculation based on how each campaign has classified expenditures, so I might be missing some variables, but I think it's a pretty good landscape snapshot.
And granted, much of Obama's spending in that area is due to his heated primary race. On the Republican side, the primary was far less of a show, so required far less effort in this area.
And finally, it's clear the Obama campaign has been far more of a rock 'n roll theater (and I personally like rock 'n roll) than any campaign in either party across the board.
But given these numbers, could it be that the contrast is particularly stark not so much because McCain's convention act was bad (though it was), but rather because Obama's crew (and the stage crews they work with) are just so far above the norm by sheer experience in the field that by comparison we noticed even more all the grade-school talent show wrinkles of McCain's stragecraft the other night?
Something to consider.
South Carolina
Submitted September 5, 2008 - 11:52 pm by Kris JohnsonThe Obama campaign is opening an office here in Southern South Carolina this weekend (Sunday), so I don't know if that's a symbolic gesture saying that they believe they can fight in the South or that they're going to use us to fight in Georgia, but either way, I am stoked!
For those who don't know, I'm a Chicagoan turned Michigander turned Arizonian turned South Carolinian (my grand tour of our country). I'll be attending our opening here on Hilton Head (yes, it has its rich areas but other parts of the county are very very poor, and I believe that there's plenty of untapped voters to be found here in the rural areas).
Going along with the good news out of Virginia, let's take back the South!!
1. Devastating commentary in The New Yorker
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 12:36 am by rikyrah (not verified)Absolute Must Read:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/georgepacker/2008/09/i-wasnt-in-st-p.html
GOP P.O.W.
2. Thanks so much for those Voter Registration Numbers
Bill, good point, but....
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 12:38 am by Susan KitchensObama's got more experience in staging? Surely everybody knows that Obama's done nothing. Zip. nada. Rudy said so. He's had to spend that money because he's just a raise funds and spend kind of candidate.
;)
(ok, ok, I take it back. Excellent point. It shows he's... experienced. heh.)
Fungible reality
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 1:12 am by Bill ConroySusan, glad to see you're still tuned in. You know I always worry when that when I lay out a fact, people will somehow see it as an opinion. But the reality is that -- yeah, I have opinions, but no one in reality generally gives a shit about those -- facts are what we all base our opinions on if we are rational beings.
So I'm not certain what to make of the huge discrepancy in spending in that particular area in terms of rational science. But if you want my opinion, well, I'd say simply that campaigns are shows; you have a limited budget; and you choose where to invest it.
Obama has put a good share, not all by any stretch, into what I consider the "art" of politics, the live show -- check out the Lincoln/Douglas debates (well, I guess we can't, but I bet it all started there, or maybe even earlier, if we stretch, back in Rome, or maybe Greece -- or Northern Africa, Egypt, so we don't forget our history).
Liberals are so, well, like money is evil, but most liberal have money. It is so disconcerting. Money is nothing more than fungible influence. The fact that Obama can raise as much money as he can, and the fact that he chooses, in the context of the biggest show on earth, a presidential US campaign, to invest it in stage presence, is to me not a negative.
Most of the folks that set up those stages earn union wages; and they understand the art of the human experience. So it's money well spent.
But at the end of the day, all the money in the world, as fungible as it may be, as influenctial as it may be for the weak, conservative and liberal alike, won't make up for what I deem rock 'n roll, what others might call soul.
So you miss my point if you look only at the money; but you can't ignore the fact that money well spent can be a good thing, even for a liberal with money.
If I'm wrong, and I mean this as no insult, because I've actually tried it (both for real and because of my stupidity -- sleep behind a bush in winter and find a newspaper; and yeah, once, just for kicks in pursuit of experience, but don't judge me to harshly absent context); ... spend more than one night on the street in the quest ... see how far you can get in a day without a buck in your pocket.
Reform Team Shuts down Troopergate Investigation
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 12:49 am by Bill R. (not verified)Seems like the reform team is acting a bit clumsy these days. Their goons in Alaska are shutting down the Troopergate investigation. The editorial in the Anchorage Newspaper and announcement that the Legislative Committee is issuing subpoenas was just a bit too much to handle with an election coming up. Seems like the Palin Mafia really has the iron fist in Alaska. Firm but clumsy and incompetent.
OT Meet Jill Biden
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 1:23 am by Anne CrumptonI just picked up this link to Jill Biden speaking in PA today. She is awesome too.
The failure of McCain's team
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 2:10 am by gizmo (not verified)The failure of McCain's team to do the background vetting on Palin is another competence issue. I'm starting to think the Republicans know they are toast, and are just going through the motions
Call me cynical
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 2:14 am by Alexa (not verified)They (RNC) are not this stupid. This ineptitude is on purpose. I can't put my finger on it. Even though I think the CarolDuhart is an astute observation and applicable.
Something else is going on. And I do think that when McCain said he could guarantee a win, he meant it.
The RNC convention was sinister. We're being played and I can't explain how.
I do think, however, that Obama's ground team/movement has been underestimated. Registering voters, helping get them to the polls, then monitoring the results, is key.
Expecting those NC
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 4:29 am by NC turning blue (not verified)Expecting those NC registration numbers to increase big time in next month. Obama campaign all out in NC registrating every new freshman and volunteers pouring into offices.
@Dona Hickey
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 8:15 am by Karen DesmondThanks for the Virginia news. I lived in VA during the primary and volunteered, and given my experience with the grassroots there, I just know Obama will win Virginia. From memory, I think he won the Primary by 30 points, and tripled voter turnout from the previous primary (and the primary took place in the middle of an ice storm).
You can be sure if they have 9 out of 10 eligible voters registered, the campaign also have a contact file in their db on every single one of these voters, and efforts will be on the hugest GOTV ever.
KD
Where to volunteer
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 8:18 am by Karen DesmondBarath on dkos made this map (I saw it through Jed). If you're living in a safe state and want to know where to volunteer, look here.
Then, contact your local campaign office and tell them you where you volunteer and they will let you know when trips are being organized to those states.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=1172281912088331...
KD
@rikyrah
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 9:35 am by Anne CrumptonThanks so much for the link to the NewYorker. Parker put into words my biggest feeling after McCain's speech. Not only that he has been taken captive by the right wing, but also has sold out his party and the straight talk express he was know for.
BTW our guy spoke to the AARP convention this morning and knocked it out of the park. In responding to a question about COBRA he clearly stated his position and then went on to say how McCain's plan to reduce health insurance tax credits to small business would put more people needing COBRA (which is unaffordable now and makes anyone with pre-existing conditions have an even more difficult challenge).
On the Social Security question, I only wish he had reminded them Joe Biden was on the bi-partisan team (with Bob Dole) that came up with the compromise last time around. Link to Joe telling PA voters how it is.
@ Catherine
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 9:36 am by Chris Landry (not verified)I would suggest not getting into things like cap & trade, which become what a film maker friend of mine calls "beautiful distractions."
The excellent book Made to Stick by Chip and Dan Heath (highly recommended) talks about how Clinton's team in '92 insisted he talk only about one thing -- the economic pain people were feeling. As the Heath brothers write, "If you're saying three things, you're not saying anything at all."
It can be frustrating because we can all think of 57 reasons why McCain is a disaster, but the real discipline is in boiling it down to a single message, powerfully conveyed. It drove Bubba nuts, being the policy wonk he was, but it worked.
Being played
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 10:42 am by James HaygoodIt has been a bizarre week. The open hostility of the GOP speakers towards at least half of this country, it was pretty shocking to watch, and on the surface seemed ill-advised. Then McCain comes out and says it's all about bi-partisanship and reaching out, as if we hadn't seen Guiliani and the rest. It was schizoid. And of course the irony is that the issues he has shown his "bi-partisanship" on (immigration, campaign finance, global warming, etc.) would all get him booed off the stage if he pushed them, which of course he didn't. He's created a hybrid fundamentalist/centrist monster, but he seems willing to ride that Frankenstein to win the big prize. We'll see if this unholy contraption can hold together 'til November.
But the thing to watch now is how they parlay the right's ability to deny all fact. That once they have found their chosen one (which in this case is Palin, ironically) any criticism or attack is PROOF of their rightness. Any info that comes to light (down to her daughter's pregnancy) becomes an ASSET. Their candidate's character and history is right because it is theirs. In fact, what is right is defined by their history. It's an amazing phenomenon, when we know how these same issues would be received if it was Obama - it's not about principle, it's about alliegiance. So that is the thing I am watching during this controlled roll out, this hostility to the press, this victimization as rallying cry. I mean, this past week was some Orwellian, dog-whistling shit, and to a big swath of America, it works.
Our job is to find the sane ones, get them registered and get them to the polls. Because you cannot argue with an insane person, it simply proves them right.
@Anne Crumpton
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 10:28 am by Karen DesmondGlad to see Obama did well on the AARP conference call and was able to talk about McCain's plan also. Ezra Klein had a suggestion for the debates, which I thought was excellent.
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=09&year=2008&... @Chris Landry 9:36 am I think you're absolutely right. While we might like to list every fact and figure, that kind of messaging is not going to make it through the fog. That's why simple tools like www.obamataxcut.com could potentially be very useful. I've added this phrase to my email signature: John McCain says Barack Obama will raise your taxes - McCain is Lying Use this calculator to figure your Obama taxcut: http://www.obamataxcut.comKD
Keeping it simple...
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 10:33 am by cm (not verified)The "I said no thanks to the bridge to nowhere" claim...the dem response been "she was for it before she was against it". It's mealy mouthed and ineffective, because it makes it seem like she made the right decision in the end.
Why can't they just say, "she kept the money anyway!" Has anyone said this outside of Stewart and Colbert?
Money machine
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 10:33 am by Bill ConroyAlexa: At least with respect to the campaign funding, the game is only starting. McCain is due to get an $84 million infusion of taxpayers money into his McCain 2008 Inc. committee. In looking at the FEC numbers, one reason they don't reflect spending in areas like stagecraft, is his committee has been busy transfering money to affiliated committees not subject to the spending limitations of the public financing law. His legal compliance committee, for example, as of the end of July, had some $12 million in it, most of it transferred from the McCain 2008 Inc. committee (or donated by supporters who had money refunded to them from the McCain 2008 Inc. committee.)
And then there's the host of other committees who are now getting flush with cash. And under FEC rules, there's very few limitations on moving that money back and forth among those committees.
So the way I look at it, if you hire enough lawyers and accountants, you can actually use the public financing system to scam the taxpayers in a way, since you get $84 million from us, and you can avoid the so-called spending restrictions simply by setting up sister committees that have no spending limits. And there's a hundred other ways to get around the law, without technically breaking it.
If that's campaign finance reform, I want a piece of that action when I do my taxes next year. It's a joke.
The RNC and McCain will be a money machine from here forward, since the public financing period for McCain started officially when he accepted his party's nomination. Obama's folks know that. It's going to get very heated on that front soon and Obama's ability to keep up the fundraising from this point forward could well be a real test of victory.
Muddying the waters
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 11:06 am by James HaygoodAnother amazing thing to watch is this. During McCain's speech he mentioned getting good ideas from anywhere. I kind of laughed at the time thinking he was already applying this in co-opting the "change" theme, however ludicrous. But today they have a new ad up that really takes some co-opting nerve - now their slogan is that Obama is "more of the same". I shit you not.
It's an amazing ploy, to diffuse and muddle Obama's message, to make all the language meaningless and confused. Even repeating the "celebrity" theme despite thier week of hero (Palin) worship. And he even lies that Obama "promises to raise your taxes". Staggeringly brazen propaganda.
James Haygood
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 11:24 am by bonkers (not verified)Yes, it's all completely surreal, and it only works if the Conglomerate Media provides cover for the lies. If "the press" actually practiced journalism, Repubs would be laughed off the stage (with green backgrounds and all).
James - I noticed that
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 11:29 am by Karen DesmondJames - I noticed that too.
Their only problem is that Obama doesn't rhyme with same.
Now repeat after me
John McCain More of the Same John McCain More of the Same John McCain More of the Same
KD
Where's video from Maddow, "What we know about Palin"?
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 11:43 am by Elizabeth DuvertDoes anyone have the link to this video? I can't get it to play on JedReport. Thanks.
Obama Tax Cut
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 12:12 pm by David B. BrionesObama Tax Cut Calculator
Maddow
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 12:15 pm by Pamela Hilliard OwensElizabeth...Jed has it right now on his site:
www.jedreport.com
Just viewed it myself a few minutes ago...hilarious!
Can't wait until Monday night...Keith has Obama, and then Rachel's debut!
Gotta Tivo it, though...have PFLAG meeting...
waterprise2 AKA Pam
Liberal with a Capital L!
Voter Registration Success...
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 12:28 pm by Pamela Hilliard OwensYesterday, I attended a very beautiful graduation ceremony for a 4-month training program for AA men aged 21-29 who graduated from high school, but needed some additional help to get ready for life, careers, etc.
As part of the program, the local NAACP came over during class time, registered them all, and gave them forms to register anyone in their families and neighborhoods who weren't registered. They got points on their "score sheets" for registering new people. Total number of new registrations from the efforts of those 17 young men in the program: 347!
That's change we can believe in!
waterprise2 AKA Pam
Liberal with a Capital L!
"Spinning a Grand Old Fantasy"
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 12:45 pm by Jeff LarsonThat is a title of an article in today's Barrons. There is no free login avail, but it criticizes the GOP platform which among other things repeatedly emphasizes that elusive concept: the free market.
The article points to the GOP hypocracy and brings up the Bear Stearns bailout and Freddie/Fannie rescues. It talks about Boehner's glowing recommendation to read the platform and follows up with questions to Boehner:
"What about Congress' intention to grant Detroit's Big Three $50 billion in low-cost loans? Does the platform mean that Republicans will vote against it?" I asked.
"It depends on the party member and his state," said Boehner with a wry smile.
The article concludes with some favorable words on Obama mostly related to Obama's current position on natural gas and how that will help energy markets.
the Google theory - mistake vs. inside job
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 12:57 pm by mak (not verified)As suggested by Jay, above, it appears unlikely that the use of the middle school was simply a staff screw-up, since an image search for "walter reed" doesn't produce the middle school at all (at least it didn't as of yesterday morning). Even a search for "walter reed school" doesn't turn up the image, and "walter reed middle school" only turns up the head-on image found yesterday by TPM.
This, combined with the fact that the same backdrop was used on the West Wing for the fictional-though-largely parallel-to-Obama figure of Matt Santos indicates to me that the use of the image was no mere accident.
Watched Palin and Mccain convention speeches
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 12:59 pm by Agoram Muthukumaranon cnn in a remote north east indian state. Why cnn had to reperatedly show them 5-6 times a day, beats me. Did they show Obama's speech that many times ?
Both the speeches were devoid of any issues and McCain trying to steal the change meme is terrifying.
More terrifying was that both of them attracted a teevee audience matching Obama's speech.
Are the fucking americans about to deliver a third bush term ?
amk
Eavesdropping
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 12:59 pm by Christi DemuthLast night I went to a 5 star hotel for drinks at sunset. The table next to ours was a group of 4 in their late 40's early 50's. I could tell they are very well off. One of the guys said to the other "Did you see McCain's speech last night? He was great! It was the most watched speech from any politician ever." My stomach turned at this horrific news and I stood up and said "The football game did it" and left. This morning, I am CLing a bit and can not wait to get home and start working to counteract these feelings. I truly believe the worst thing that could happen to our country in my lifetime would be for McDraft/Palin to win, even worse than Bush/Cheney.
Not. Gonna. Happen.
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 1:09 pm by Pamela Hilliard Owensamk: think you need a "Chicken Little Shot"! Maybe you don't remember the O-man's superior ground game?
re: McCain's speech...it came on immediately after the football game, so eyes were registered right @ the beginning before people got bored and changed the channel! Only 1/2 in jest...
Plus, from what I've read, a lot of people watched, and a lot of people were sickened and/or turned off.
The important thing is that the Repubs are just trying to strengthen their extreme-minded base, and in doing so, have turned off moderate Repubs and Independents. Wavering Hillary supporters are not impressed. Their extreme base is much smaller than before.
We will not be distracted; we are gonna work, work, work. We also know that the Repubs will try every trick in the book, including trying to start a new war.
Even a lot of GOP mouthpieces, and believe it or not, MSM are realizing that Palin Power is gonna implode.
There is no way she can learn in 30 days what Joe Biden has learned in 30 years; and we know that Joe can clean her clock without looking "mean to the girl".
We're not taking anything for granted, but we are working to bring about a mini-landslide for the O-man. Period.
waterprise2 AKA Pam
Liberal with a Capital L!
Not only that...
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 1:13 pm by Pamela Hilliard Owens@ Christi and amk:
A lot of Democrats watched that speech just to see how McCain would try to "top" Obama's speech--yeah, right; a whole lot more Dems watched McCain than Repubs watched Obama...
waterprise2 AKA Pam
Liberal with a Capital L!
Thanks Pam. CLism happens, I guess, if one is forced
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 1:16 pm by Agoram Muthukumaranto watch cnn for 4 days in a row and not have access to blogs, especially, The Field.
I didn't watch cnn during the dem convention, seeing the speeches on C-Span. But the cnn sycophancy during the repug convention was sickening.
amk
Pam
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 1:21 pm by Christi DemuthThank You- You are 'The Woman'! I was caught off guard hearing that news from those people.
Chuckie-T
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 1:24 pm by Pamela Hilliard Owensone more thing...then I'm outta here to do my Saturday "Neighbor to Neighbor GOTV" thing...beautiful day here in Michigan which will "Go Blue" to steal a phrase...
Chuckie-T said (re: poll) that a 3-point win by the O-man wins the election, and a 6-point win would be an electoral college landslide...
Let's keep our eyes on the prize!
("Chuckie-T" is Chuck Todd, the MSNBC "numbers guru"...)
waterprise2 AKA Pam
Liberal with a Capital L!
Tax cut fun facts
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 1:34 pm by Riley Lynch@David B. Briones
Thanks for the link to the "Obama Tax Cut Calculator". They spell out the details that the Washington Post graphic elides:
http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/details.html
These are important facts to have at your disposal when talking with undecided voters.
Ignorance
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 2:37 pm by Ann (not verified)I try to imagine somebody who has as little natural interest in politics as I do in sports. I realize that a lot of people are excited by sports, but I once amused a lot of guy by asking if the Knicks ever sang acapella. A little information sinks in one way or another, and you quietly fake it in company. But these low interest voters come as children and accept the images and words and the feelings so cynically stirred. Shameless liars have the advantage. Ignorance decides close elections.
Wizard of Oz or Sabotage?
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 3:02 pm by attikus (not verified)Great points Al, Carol, and James-
There are still some incongruities with this image's origin, and it's utterly fascinating.
If we go with a Wizard of Oz behind the curtain theory that they're so tone-deaf to realize the green screen problem and somebody just got the wrong picture, then how likely is it that they actually wanted a picture of Walter Reed Army Medical Center?
They claimed to be using stock americana images all week, and they were (corn, flagpole, etc), but where is the logic in suddenly wanting a specific image that very few people would recognize, a particular Vet hospital?
Could they have possibly thought that Walter Reed Medical and McCain standing in front of it was an image they want to put up at the beginning of his speech during his thank-yous? Possibly. But the word "veteren" doesn't even appear in his speech (niether does "vet" - ha). He mentions a fallen soldier's family and bracelet, but not Veterns themselves. At minute 7 the background incongrously changes to the cornfield, then right before minute 9 we get the skyblue flagpole shot for the rest of the speech.
Isn't it more likely that they would have wanted images as generic as the entire preceeding convention?
Watch the first 9 minutes again. Within 30 seconds of Walter Reed Middle School and it's built in green screen, we get the protester with McCain Votes Against Vets sign.
The timing and irony of the Middle School and the green screen and the protester are the elephants in the convention hall.
Consider another theory: a talented Minneapolis graphic production professional gets a frantic call from the campaign a few weeks ago to manage the mega-TV they want at their convention because the local production union won't work with them. Maybe this person is a Vet. Maybe his or her brother or uncle is a Vet. Maybe this person watches Colbert. Maybe this person knows the truth about McCain's record.
We know they're incompetant enough to put McCain in front of a green screen on Obama's primary win night. But are they possibly incompetant enough to want a picture of Walter Reed Medical (or a "generic" image of a middle school that looks like a mansion, for that matter), at the beginning of the speech, followed by a cornfield (in a speech that doesn't mention farms or agriculture), followed by the trusty flagpole with built in blue screen for 40 minutes?
First they say it was somebody's fault, then they say it was on purpose - but maybe not their purpose.
Cindy's expression as she looks at the screen sums it up: WTF?
Brain on cliches
Submitted September 6, 2008 - 3:16 pm by Ann (not verified)There's a blog on Huff-Po about how the story matters more than the truth. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-johnson/what-is-obamas-story_b_124391....
I notice how a lot of people, especially teenagers, shortchange their individuality and cut off their powers of observation by trying to fit their stories into the latest cliche. "I have anger issues. Awesome." Comics too. They really magnify and cement the tag lines the press gives to celebrities and politicians. How many jokes have you heard about Clinton's p*****?
Cliches are like little sandtraps in your brain. Its so hard to get your ball out.
Kerry the flip flopper, Maverick McCain, Palin the Powerhouse reformer, Obama the empty suit. One way to fight this is to develop alternative tag lines like McSame, but unfortunately the Right Wing Media Machine refuses to let us borrow it.
Maybe we have to be really boring and pedantic about it so people become more aware, the same way people are more aware now of racist and sexist thinking. There's a good article on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda) that sums up propaganda techniques and ought to be taught before people can get their Adult American cards.
So many spot-on comments
Submitted September 7, 2008 - 9:35 pm by Steven HuntSo many spot-on comments here, where to begin?:
James, your right: don't waste time on people that are already drinking the koolaid. Concentrate on people that are amendable to rational, pro-human, egalitarian argument. The slaves that want to vote for the slave-masters--they are a lost cause. Concentrate on getting sane people to the polls, voting for Obama.
Bonkers--the corporate media will never engage the job of 'journalism' from an authentic, democratic perspective (like Al G. does). Ain't gonn'a happen--and when it does, it is an anomoly. We need citizen journalists. We must operate on the premise that the corporate media wants more of McSame. What complicates this issue is the fact that some of the people involved in corporate, for-profit, media are liberal-minded, and that they do support Obama. So it isn't cut and dried. However, ownership of the means of information trumps the political leanings of the worker bees when it comes to framing issues.
Chris L. : sage advice. The more muddled the central issues that will win this election become, the more likely McLame will win. Be concise. McLame is not for economic fairness. Yes, given that ethico-political issues require nuance--'it's the economy stupid' again. Are you better off than you were eight years ago? The answer for anyone in the working classes that is nominally honest will be 'no'.
We are not working on our own, logical, terrrain. We are competing on the barbaric and clear-cut terrain of the powers of plutocratic control and human domination. The majority of the population is victim of the talking points generated by the plutocrats and their savage adjuncts. The first casuality of this major context is the citizen's ability to reason.
I noticed from the Republican convention the total worship of 'the father'. The Republicans have placed themselves in the subject position of the 'the father'--the patriot, the rugged individual, the honorable, sacrificing man (besieged by welfare cheats and pointy-headed, effe liberals), etc. A huge segment of the US population respond to this false symbolism--and the myriad angels of attack will not be acceptable, because if they/we attack 'the father', we/they are attacking the US as a nation.
Bascially, this entire paradigm is 'fucked'--in that there is very little chance for a reasoned, pro-peace adgenda to challenge this meme. "Peace is for pussies" is the unstated contempt for the center-left.
Again, we are operating on a symbolic terrain that is not of our making--and in which we are at a disadvantage as reasonably sane people. And that is why victory will be ensured by making the most astute chess moves--not be taking the most readily apparent, logical, moves on board.
attikus--interesting
Submitted September 7, 2008 - 9:45 pm by Steven Huntattikus--interesting comments about the visual productions at McLame's convention speech.
I will say this--even though many will disagree: the code pinkers were the highlight of the evening. If they could have smuggled into the hall an Iraqi kid who had been maimed by US 'shock and awe' it would have been even better.
If I had anything to do with the event, i would have put up images of graphic anal-sex (this is what these rightwing Republicans are doing to you).
Sorry, it is true, I would have done it--and would have done my twenty years in prison with my head up, with the kind of honor that McLame (the carpet bomber of civilian villages) can only dream of living for one moment.
Info Antidote for Palin Chicken Littling
Submitted September 7, 2008 - 11:30 pm by Nancy ChesterPam @ 7:17 Willie Brown really did do some major Cl-ing with his claim that Palin's pick puts the Democrats on the defensive and we "always" lose when that happens. It's the Republicans that are on the defensive with this pick to the tune that their candidate has been quaranteed to Alaska apparently to do some witness tampering, issue gag orders and use "executive privilege" to block e-mail releases from a Freedom of Information filing. Under pressure she will be doing one softball interview with ABC's Charlie Gibson. Here's just a handful of good news articles for Democrats just from the last few days.
(1) Sarah Palin may have women flocking to Barack Obama, New York Daily News
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/09/06/2008-09-06_sarah_palin_may_have_women_flocking__to_.html
Before the Palin pick, Obama led McCain by 44 points among female Clinton backers. That jumped to a 54-point lead afterward, 75% to 21%, the poll said.
(2) CNN fact checks Sara Palin’s speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tc7BF_Fd7I
(3) Palin e-mails off public record.
http://www.ktuu.com/global/story.asp?s=8802680
Radio talk show host Dan Fagan is a Palin critic. He says this isn't about policy. It's about not letting the public see what people in the administration have to say about Palin critics.
"If this is about executive privilege and confidential information then Todd should not be privy to them," Fagan said. "He's a regular citizen he does not get to be co-governor. We did not slash Todd on the ballot box."
(4) Is Palin Tampering with Witnesses
http://www.andrewhalcro.com/is_palin_tampering_with_witnesses
(5) No Spilling the Milk. A gag order on the Matnuska Maid fiasco. http://www.andrewhalcro.com/nov_19_no_spilling_the_milk_a_gag_order_on_the_matanuska_maid_fiasco
In what has quickly become one of the most costly and poorly thought out decisions since former Governor Murkowski bought the ill fated jet, Governor Palin's decision to keep open the failing Matanuska Maid Dairy has culminated in her ordering a gag on employees from sharing public information about Mat Maid's questionable business practices.
(6) Oprah says no to Palin interview, from Britain’s Guardian. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/07/uselections2008.sarahpalin1
(7) The Authoritative Trig Palin Conspiracy Time Line.
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2008/09/the-authoritative-trig-palin-conspiracy-time-line.html
What’s really interesting about this rather funny time line is the source is Vanity Fair Magazine.
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