Toppling a Coup, Part III: Discipline Solves the Big Problems
By Al Giordano

The Honduras civil resistance, August 8, in front of the US Embassy in Tegucigalpa.
(Photos by Tiros, Chiapas Indymedia.)
When members of the Honduran civil resistance solicited the counsel of Serbian resistance veteran Ivan Marovich from July 31 to August 2, a repeat question from various participants was:
Q. How do we avoid infiltration?
Marovich replied:
One thing I can't teach you is that. We spent half our time looking for infiltrators. When years later we opened the files, we discovered how wrong we were!
Another thing we learned was how bad the regime’s intelligence was. The main source of its information was gossip, people talking about each other, and most of it was not true.
I loved that answer, because it exactly describes my own discoveries in my pre-journalism years as a community organizer arrested 27 times in social movements in the United States. And it also matches every counsel on the topic of infiltration offered to me by my mentor of eight years during the 1980s, the US dissident Abbie Hoffman.
Before his death in 1989, Abbie's lawyers had unearthed more than 57,000 pages of FBI files that had documented both the espionage against him and the rumor campaigns fueled by government infiltrators aimed at discrediting his leadership in the anti-war and other movements of the 1960s and 1970s. It is possible that Abbie was the most spied upon North American dissident in history.
When, as a lad of 21, I first asked Abbie what he thought of the probability that his phones were tapped, his response was, “Good! That way, they at least know two things: What I am not doing – because they tend to fantasize all kinds of crazy things – and the poor agents assigned to me have to deal with the fact that I’m having more fun than they are.”
This, from an organizer that had just come aboveground from seven years as a fugitive who faced 15-years-to-life in prison: his distinct lack of paranoia was refreshing in an era when I had encountered many other movement leaders whose fear of infiltration, espionage and disinformation campaigns had crippled both their demeanors and their capacities to think and strategize clearly.
It was Abbie’s experience, and as echoed by Marovich from his own, that the great majority of the “information” government agents had gathered on their movements was so wrong that it only served to throw them more off the trail than on it.

Another factor I’ve observed over three decades and more of dealing with the matter is that men (sorry, guys) tend to be more overly obsessed and paranoid about infiltration and espionage than women in social movements, and for too many it has retarded their capacity for leadership.
Likewise, men, more than women (and of course there are notable exceptions in each gender) tend to be more vulnerable to the provocations of infiltrators, especially those that seek to involve movement participants in violent or felonious activities that quickly justify greater repression against all in the movement.
Abbie always taught best by doing, more so than by talking, so I’ll tell you a story that I found revealing and formative to my own practices ever since.
On Christmas Day 1982, Abbie and I arrived in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, called in by a local environmental movement that had lost its many expensive court cases against a project to divert water from the Delaware River to the Limerick nuclear power plant 40 miles away on the Schuykill River. Construction was to begin on January 7, two weeks later.
Opposition to the pump brought a wide local coalition together from liberal environmentalists to wealthy Republicans concerned about their property values to what might stereotypically but affectionately be called “rednecks” driving pick-up trucks with gun racks on the back. And one of the first things we heard when interviewing the various sectors was lots of macho talk along the lines of “we’re going to blow up the pump,” or, “I’ll shoot those motherfuckers if they come here with their bulldozers.” Many spoke as if they meant it.
From our own perspective as organizers, any major violent act like that would have set back the movement and limited its mobility in organizing, as well as narrowing its public support. There were so many of these guys talking violent action against the pump that we feared that all it would take was some infiltrator-provocateur to spark some of them into shooting or blowing stuff up.
But Abbie said, and it struck me strange at first impression, that we shouldn’t worry ourselves about infiltrators, but, rather, about our own troops and inoculating them against being manipulated by them. “What does society do with men who were beaten as boys and thus have a greater tendency toward violence?” he asked me in his frequently Socratic teaching method. He then answered his own question: “They give them badges and make them cops!”
Abbie asked the movement’s leaders to gather every single individual that they had heard speaking of violent action, plus any of the “silent macho types” that might have that proclivity, and called a meeting in the attic of the local tavern where many of them drank at night.
There, Abbie began the meeting: “We need your help, men. You see, there are other people out there – not you, of course – who might be government infiltrators or with violent tendencies, and we need a way to keep them in line. Many of you guys have been in the Armed Forces. Some of you fought in Viet Nam. You know the importance of discipline. You’ve been trained in it. And what we need from you, should you be willing to accept this mission, is that you be the marshals of the movement and organize at all our actions and events to keep things from getting out of hand.”
The guys – who five minutes prior had been the leading advocates for violent action – fucking loved it! “Can we have our own tee shirts, just for marshalls?” asked one, to applause from the group. And from there grew a long discussion about different scenarios in which a provocateur or other participant might turn violent during our planned blockades at the construction site, just days away. Once they considered it their job to keep the peace, the violence talk within the movement simply rolled to a stop. The marshals met regularly, held training sessions, printed their tee shirts, set up a CB radio communications network in which we all had our own handles (Abbie’s was “River Rat,” and mine was “Captain America”) and the local tavern owner put the song “I Love a Man in Uniform” on the jukebox to which they would stand up and salute each time it was played.
“What if a cop or a provocateur spits at me, can I whoop his ass then?” asked one.
“No, you can’t."
“What if he spits a second time?”
“Nope, you gotta keep the peace.”
“Okay, but what if he spits a third time?”
“If he spits a third time,” answered Abbie, divining that such a scenario was very unlikely to happen to a disciplined movement, “go ahead and kick his ass.” Everybody laughed.
When the marshals printed their tee shirts they had the Latin words for “Three Spits and You’re Out” emblazoned on them.
The lesson of this tale – and, yes, that movement which had successfully blockaded the pump construction site for three weeks and eventually defeated it at referendum remained disciplined in its nonviolent practice – is that when a civil resistance organizes to make itself immune to outside or internal provocations, the matter of infiltrators will still exist but becomes a much smaller problem. The power is in that case, as in most, in the hands of the movement itself, whereas worrying too much about infiltrators or provocateurs leaves the power in the hands of the regime: a power to guide the movement’s own actions by making it reactive instead of proactive, not to mention the internal division such paranoia breeds.

Translation of sign at August 8 anti-coup protest: "Requirement #1 to be my husband: To the Army, You Must Not Belong."
There are other benefits to any civil resistance that come from adherence to nonviolent discipline, too.
A “state of siege mentality” serves those who, in the context of movements, seek power and control over others. Movements attract power-seekers like flies to dung. The greater the perceived urgency of secrecy and hiding, the more authoritarian in daily praxis the movement tends to become. A movement that is overly reactive to repression tends to promote leaders that thrive in such a state of siege, and they’re not usually your best strategic thinkers or organizers.
And there is another debilitating effect: Paranoia causes individuals and groups to wall themselves in and to shrink from the duty to organize to expand the movement and seek the counsel of a wider swath of participants from the grassroots level. And the more that a movement becomes its own echo chamber, reverberating only the information and opinions available to a few, typically shut off from the people by their own paranoia, the less strategically and tactically effective its actions turn out to be. A paranoid movement always loses its most powerful weapon: it’s connection to, and support from, the people.
I’ve frankly grown distrustful from experience of too much clandestinity among some political and social movements and actors. It too often walks hand in hand with personalities more concerned about their own turf or power over others than with what should properly be the only and most real goal: winning the battle at hand, and then the war or the revolution.
The wonderful solution provided for part of this problem by adherence to nonviolent strategies and tactics – and I say this as one who is not philosophically a pacifist (I don’t see nonviolence as a moral imperative, but, rather, as a strategic one) – is that nonviolent struggles have so much less to hide than violent ones, and therefore are less crippled by paranoia.
We must always keep in mind that a big part of the motive for infiltration, espionage and disinformation against any social movement or its participants is aimed at creating that “state of siege mentality,” which immediately limits the options and maneuvering room for any social actor.
Also, a shift from worrying about whether an individual is a regime agent or not to, instead, judging a person by his or her actions cleans up the process a lot. If a participant’s behavior is counter-productive to a cause, expelling or putting that person to the side of the movement’s organization is just so much cleaner and easier when not burdened with accusations of “infiltrator” or “regime agent.” Because, as was the experience of Marovich and Hoffman both, who had the luck to live long enough to read the regime’s espionage files against them, we learn that we are so often wrong in our presumptions about who is an infiltrator and who is not.
The great nonviolent practitioners – people always mention Gandhi, King, César Chávez, and, really, there have been hundreds of the same tendency that also won their battles, but who are lesser known – took great pains, in fact, to openly and publicly inform the enemy of exactly what they were doing. After a while, when it becomes clear that a movement walks its talk, and does precisely what it says it is going to do, regimes are disarmed of the power of their own tactics of infiltration, espionage and disinformation, or at very least, those counter-insurgency tactics become far less effective.
Marovich explained to Honduran organizers on the night of July 31 that when his movement in Serbia moved toward tactics that included informing the police agencies in advance of its plans for each action or demonstration, they succeeded in removing the uncertainty and fear among individual cops sent to contain those protests.
“The officer might still receive an order to attack you,” Marovich explained. “But if he’s not personally afraid or nervous – something that happens more when he doesn’t know in advance what the multitude marching toward him is going to do or not - he can think more clearly about how to comply with that order.” Uncertainty, paranoia and fear almost always generate a much more brutal and violent response from individual police or soldiers: Even with those ordered to attack protesters, there are degrees in how savagely that can happen.
What many consider the most compelling case for nonviolent discipline in a movement is that it more effectively peels away the layers of support for a regime – as outlined in Part II of this series in which we describe the coup regime as an onion – because it dramatizes the fundamental violence of the regime itself and the compelling moral authority of the resistance. I haven’t mentioned that much here because people either “get” it or they don’t.
There are simply many people in this world not aware of the concept of public relations, in part because advertising and media carefully cultivate such ignorance so that their own manipulative tricks on the crowd – whether to sell products or manufacture socio-political consent - will work better. And for those that don’t grasp that dynamic, the case is more effectively made as a pragmatic one: Discipline – one doesn’t have to overtly call it "nonviolent" to obtain it from collaborators - as an organizational principle that works so much better than the lack of it.
One need not be ideologically a pacifist to understand the power of group discipline, and truth is that most people are not pacifists by nature. But we are pragmatic, and that’s all it usually takes.

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Well said
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 11:31 am by Tonya HennesseyAl, valuable post. I don't have your depth and breadth of experience, but I've found the same to be very true in working in social movement since the early 90's. Thanks for this gracefully written piece. Couldn't agree more with your counsel on the issues raised here. Glad you're on the back & forth to Honduras at present.
Salud,
Tonya
Openness == Community Building
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 12:05 pm by Phil Hughes (not verified)I agree 100% with your post. I was a member of SNAG (Seattle Non-violent Action Group) in the 1980s. Meetings were open to anyone and we would just assume there was always a "spy" there. Protests always had a PR contact. ...
At a protest at Boeing, quite a few people were arrested and taken to two different police stations. I picked up the people at one but we lost track of three of the protesters. They showed up many hours later, reasonably drunk.
After being released they realized the news would soon be on and walked to a local working-class bar with a TV. The people in the bar saw these guys on the news, considered them "stars" and bought them a lot of beer while listening to what they had to say.
How widely applicable?
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 12:05 pm by Sophie Amrain (not verified)Al, thanks for sharing your insights. The strategy of openness and not worrying much about infiltrators sounds very reasonable. But it does require a reasonably 'civilized' government/ruling class, does it not? It would not work in say Taliban-controlled parts of Afghanistan, or in Nazi Germany, or any of the ancient kingdoms. If the government has decided to kill off emerging leaders of the resistance faster than they can emerge, there is a problem.
@ Sophie
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 12:14 pm by Al GiordanoSophie - While openness and transparency certainly do not guarantee protection from brutal regimes, neither do secrecy and clandestinity.
This is even more true today in a world where technology allows satellites to photograph license plate numbers from space, where cell phone and Internet communications can be hacked not only by regimes but by corporations and individuals, and so many other ways that daily life is now intruded upon. We now live in a world of near total surveillance.
I admire and have studied, more than most, the great guerrilla movements of our hemisphere. But clandestinity did not protect them from repression or infiltration and today, where the jungle no longer shields from prying telescopic lenses from the sky (or Google Satellite for that matter) the math has tipped the scales heavily against safety or security through secrecy.
Can and should precautions be taken? Absolutely. We do a lot of that here to protect our confidential sources, for example. But nobody should be under the illusion that anything is reliably private anymore.
As for regime strategies to "kill off the leaders" (what we call "decapitate") movements, that will be addressed in Part IV of this series on the imperative of decentralized organizing models.
Let's remember that the very Serbian struggle we've been bouncing off here was against one of those brutally repressive dictatorships you describe: One that assassinated, on average, one opposition leader, movement organizer or journalist a week, and that had murdered 8,000 in a single five day period. When they, even in the face of that, drew conclusions that openness better served them as a strategy and tactic, that's worth taking very seriously.
Moral vs practical
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 12:46 pm by Jeff Wegerson"I don’t see nonviolence as a moral imperative, but, rather, as a strategic one"
This is my approach to abortion. I do not oppose murder on moral grounds but rather on practical grounds. Society and business cannot function well when murders are allowed free reign. So for practical reasons murder should be outlawed.
But society and business are not hampered by having women who have chosen to have an abortion or their doctors or pharmicists, in our midsts. I am not afraid to live next door to them.
So whether one chooses to call it murder or not, on balance it is more practical for society to leave that decision with the individual.
Reply to Sophie
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 12:56 pm by Ivan Marovich (not verified)People who were target of assasinations during Milosevic's rule in Serbia included: owner of independent weekly magazine, former president who served before Milosevic, leader of the biggest opposition party (who survived two assasination attempts), manager of state owned airline company, leader of a paramilitary group etc. This is why we emphasized the horizontality and decentralization in the movement - if the regime could not find leaders, we would all be much safer, that was our reasoning.
Great post
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 1:44 pm by Jeff SimpsonCould be the epitaph for quite a lot of groups, particularly self-described "anarchist" groups, many of whom still walk the earth, zombie-style. Earth First! presente!
In that regard...
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 2:47 pm by Charles (not verified)A guy I know said that when the FBI came to his door and asked him if they could come in, he said, "Sure... but I'll be busy for a bit. So, why don't I set you up with a book to read? I bet you don't get much of a chance to do that."
They left and didn't come back.
Sophie, Al, Jeff, and Ivan...
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 4:03 pm by Brian Curdy (not verified)Our objective here (as I understand things) is to contribute (in however small-or however great a way) to the restauration of politcal and economic power (control of political and economic institutions) to the rightful owners of those Honduran institutions-which is to say the Honduran people....-That is mine anyway.-
If it wasn't I wouldn't keep up my chatter when a good night's sleep after a 10 hour work day might do me more good.
There may be those among us who have had differences in the past on issues...the way a day may come when some of us will find ouselves in opposing camps regarding other issues.
Organization requires us to focus on what we are fighting (or should I specify: "opposing vigorously by peaceful means?")
Discipline requires us to put up with each other until the other camp buckles.....
Spanish (ETV) reporting this morning at my "workplace" in Switzerland (where I am a volunteer hospice nurse serving the terminally ill) made it pretty clear that time is running out for the Golpistas and all those who were silly enough to bet on them.
The images now being broadcast by mainstream (European) media, more than compensated for my weak grasp of the Spanish language. (We speak and listen to French here.)
Everyone that I am aware of has contributed in some way (including the Golpistas who keep marking goals in our favor!)
Now European popular indignation is beginning to kindle against the Micheletti-Joya clique....
I think that the best way to thank Al and his team (for those of us who are hampered by material or geographical means at least,) is to keep focused on the issue at hand, and stay constructive.
The 28th of June seems like a decade ago to many of us, but we must remain united, constructive-and imaginative-to keep the pressure building up on the Golpista fools in Tegucigalpa.
Ivan-I hope that when you return to Serbia you will be recognized as a voice for Serbia's future. Perhaps we will have the occasion some day to share a Turkish coffee (or salep?) in Switzerland, Istanbul-or why not Beograd? It would be an honor for me.
Salaam....and falimenderit (thankyou) my friends....all of you...
@ Al and Ivan
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 4:44 pm by Sophie Amrain (not verified)Very good point. I am deeply grateful for the opportunity on this blog to learn from the professionals.
Sound advice
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 5:33 pm by berpin (not verified)@ berpin
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 5:38 pm by Al GiordanoBerpin - I'm a musician and while I get the musical puns I haven't a clue how it pertains to the story above.
I approved your comment anyway because the world needs more poetry!
Moral vs. strategic value of non-violence
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 8:01 pm by Alexis Aguilar (not verified)I find it difficult to divorce the moral value of non-violence from its strategic value. The very morality of non-violence is what makes it so strategically valuable. As you state, non-violence gives "compelling moral authority" to the resistance and highlights the brutality of the oppresors.
The Serbian model is enlightening. Now, it'd be interesting to learn more about another recent non-violent struggle of resistance: the struggle against apartheid in South Africa. I think that in that case, international pressure played an important role in the successful outcome.
Excellent commentary. I
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 8:32 pm by Greg McDonald (not verified)Excellent commentary. I continue to learn, both from your experience and the enthusiasm with which you convey it. I sincerely hope your optimism in the non-violent approach proves itself true, and that the people of Honduras and Latin America gain a great victory in the near future.
the duty to organize
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 9:05 pm by Toby Higbie (not verified)I particularly like your assertion that leaders have "the duty to organize to expand the movement and seek the counsel of a wider swath of participants from the grassroots level." It's basic, but easily forgotten.
Bureaucracies eat their own first
Submitted August 10, 2009 - 10:11 pm by Bill ConroyOne of the things I've learned from covering law enforcement is that a major contributing factor to the dysfunction that marks most of their large bureaucracies, whether it be DEA or ICE or FBI, is the competition for power and status within the machine — and information is power. So it is not uncommon for intelligence gathered in the field to be withheld, distorted or massaged in order to serve the advantage of the agent who has come upon the information, or who controls the source (the informant), and even more frequently by that agent's supervisors.
The House of Death is a perfect example of this cluster-f..k effect, in that it can be argued the informant in that case preyed on his handlers' status lust and was arguably controlling them more than they were controlling him — and to the extent that wasn't the case, the ICE bureaucracy still managed to mess things up.
My point is that we make a big mistake if we underestimate the extent to which the golpistas and their bureacuracy are capable of taking even good intelligence and turning it into cow manure through their own internal bad indigestion.
In a typically dysfunctional bureaucracy — political, law enforcement military or otherwise — the internal paranoia over who is looking to put the knife in your back is often as great or greater than any paranoia the bureaucracy might induce on its targets with its spies and informants — who themselves are paranoid and often compromised by the nature of the pecking order within the bureaucracy.
And my bet is that the paranoia barometer within the putsch regmine in Honduras is off the meter right now — and they are pretty much operating in cluster-f..k mode with respect to intelligence — garbage in ... garbage out.
awesome article, Al
Submitted August 11, 2009 - 12:15 am by Allan BrauerI haven't been commenting much lately, but that doesn't mean I'm not drinking in every word you write. Between OFA and my new venture with Pam, I'm extremely busy, but I check in when I can to learn more about the situation in Honduras and the valuable lessons we can apply here at home.
Thanks for sharing your unique experiences and perspective.
"drinking in every word you write"
Submitted August 11, 2009 - 3:59 am by Michael ChapmanSame here, and haven't been commenting much. Busy with actual things-on-the-ground, but always try for a daily read of The Field and NaroNews and regularly circulate the really major essays.
It is obvious from the dialogue on this site that Al's (and others) insights are reaching so many different communities across the globe.
If you can, donate to keep this steady stream of quality information flowing - we all need it.
Thanks Al and team - you give us so much.
BondiBeachViews
You deserve a Pulitzer for this Honduras work
Submitted August 11, 2009 - 4:40 am by Alexa (not verified)If any of the Pulitzer judges are cruising this site, this is who you nominate. Brilliant use of online journalism in the spirit of what real journalism should be about. Passionate. Well researched. And a fount of valuable and useable info for its readership.
Back on the deck @ Rowe
Submitted August 11, 2009 - 8:29 am by Lorie CavinEverytime I read your coverage of the People of Honduras, I am grateful that I was able to attend the Conference you held in Rowe, MA. I remember you telling the story you shared in this post. Your personal history of organizing and the excellent coverage of the US Presidential election and beyond, inspires me and keeps me thinking. Getting to know you over that great weekend (and @ the 9th Anniversary Party of NarcoNews), gives me such satisfaction when I support Authentic Journalism with my small, monthly donation.
Like Allen, I, too, take what I've learned here and apply it to events right where I live. OFA, as the campaign webquarters, was so very disciplined. OFA, as the continuation, has some disciplined parts of the campaign, yet is very much a work in progress.
Working for HC reform is a life and death issue. Standing with and for the 47 million who, like me, face physical and financial ruin every day because of insurance profiteers, is a duty for me, my children and the People of the USA.
Thanks, again, Al.
Brilliant!
Submitted August 11, 2009 - 1:12 pm by Reber BoultI sent the article to a friend with substantial organizing experience; he's considering teaching it as an academic subject. His response: "brilliant!"
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