Un-Suspended: Live-Blogging the Debate

By Al Giordano

(This photo is of James Meredith trying to enroll in the segregated University of Mississippi in 1962. Forty-six years later, Barack Obama is debating John McCain as presidential candidates on the same campus.)

9:02 p.m. ET: > Here we go. Jim Lehrer is introducing the candidates.

9:07 p.m.: McCain announces that Teddy Kennedy is in the hospital (which he was a little while ago this afternoon). Teddy is now back home watching him say that in his living room.

9:22 p.m.: McCain: "A lot of people might be interested in Obama's definition of rich." Well, that was a soft-ball pitch.

Obama: "If you make $250,000 or less you'll pay less (taxes)."

How about: My definition of rich? I think that owning eight houses, 13 vehicles and an airplane probably qualifies.

9:34 p.m.: Obama: "You're using a hatchet when you need a scalpel."

9:40 p.m.: After forty minutes of bickering over domestic economics, now into foreign policy. (Watch the CNN focus group dial graph at bottom of its screen: Independent voters visibly approved of Obama's answers over McCain's, and more so as the debate went on. When McCain referred to himself as "independent," the Independent dial sunk rapidly.

ng>10:44 p.m. The debate ends without major incident. Spin time!

10:48 p.m. C-Span 2 has a camera in the spin room! Go there! (Plouffe is spinning right now: "On foreign policy, John McCain was on defense all night."

10:49 p.m.: Now it's Schmidt: "Obama is naive and dangerous... dangerous... dangerous..." Here comes their theme.

11:12 p.m.: Halperin grades: Obama A-, McCain B-

Has Chuck Todd weighed in yet?

11:52 p.m.: Focus group and polling data is coming in now, from Fox, CNN, CBS, and Mediacurves so far. All of them agree that Obama and McCain each "won" among members of their own party, and Obama significantly won among Independent voters. The latter group is all that matters. Obama helped himself among swing voters tonight. McCain, not. In Reaganesque tones, he upped the "comfort" factor with him as commander in chief. I think within a couple days this is likely to be reflected in swing state polling.

12:11 a.m.: Here's CBS video excerpt caught by Jed for Huffpo:

 

 

Comments

McCain seems off and

McCain seems off and tired.. could be an opening for Obama.

Obama opened well

I'm going to try to be objective here. I think Obama did great answering the question about the bailout plan.  McCain is talking all over the place about everything BUT the question which was asked regarding the economy.

Gonna vote for the plan?

Sure, but he goes off the answer and blah, blah, blah..

Obama is taking notes

McCain, has a fundamental belief that under the right leadership are best days are ahead of us. The right leadership is Obama! He helped O'man on that one.

McCain is rambling like he's Palin

I have a hard time listening to him but isn't McCain sticking talking points willy nilly into sentences instead of actual rational thoughts?

DNA of bears?! come on!

Here's what I think is happening

McCain did ZERO preparation and he's just remembering history stuff from the books that he wrote in addition to the few months he actually worked in the Senate on ear marks about 8 years ago.

@Catherine

I can't even claim to be objective.... but I really like what I'm seeing now.

BTW msnbc says Teddy is already home.

CNN

Does anyone know what this running meter is on CNN?

GoBama!

I love it, he interupted McCain. I have paid for every dime of what I am proposing. The fact is that eliminating earmarks alone is not how we are going to get the middle class back on track.

Jim Lehrer is also getting old

With all DUE respect, perhaps he thought he was told to referree a boxing match instead of moderate a debate?  "C'mon guys look at each other, I want to see some undercuts"  what the hell...

McCain wants to spend the entire debate on spending.  God, this is embarrassing.  Obama doesn't even know how to argue against this insanity.   Biden will have the same problem tracking Palin's train of thought.

McCain's giggling

This can't be playing well, can it?

Obama is rebutting every

Obama is rebutting every point McCain is making.  Not an expert, but O-man's responses seem very pointed to me. 

respect vs disrespect

The look on Mc Cain's face is anything but respectful  and certainly "unPresidential". Obama is all business in talking right to the average American. So far, so good. 

health care taxes

I couldn't believe when McCain mentioned his health care credit - good on Obama for making sure to mention the tax part of McCain's plan.

Couples therapy?

Jim Lehrer (I'm paraphrasing):  Say that to him!  Say what you just told me to him!

 

Specifics

President Obama is being very specific.  I kinda miss nuance - but he's sure crisp.  The Old Guy is back to spending....jeez...I'm having trouble listening to his one track mind(?)

McCain's foreign gaffe

He said a couple of minutes ago that the "US is the world's largest exporter."

 

That's not true - Germany holds that position, and to show such ignorance on a widely known statistic is indicitave of McCain's knowledge.

agggggggghhh

I can't take this old man.  And that we got another almost old man in Jim Lehrer getting pissed that he can't get an answer to his weird bailout question.

Quick response!!!  Freezing

Quick response!!!  Freezing spending is like using a hatchet when a scalpel is needed.  Nice

Have you noticed McCain

Have you noticed McCain never looks directly into the camera to us out here?   No eye contact...

"Using a hatchet where we need a scalpel..."

Good analogy. 

 

many,many years...

anybody else giggling everytime the Old Man says he's don e such & such for many, many years!!!

Loved the O line - he'd use a scapel not a hatchet in cutting expenses!  So cool.

Values...

Values will determine my spending decisions...

 

waterprise2 AKA Pam

Liberal with a Capital L!

 

Question

Does anyone know if McCain is against "spending"?

Spending got out of control

 because of the Iraq war. Obama-John, it's your president who you voted with 95% of the time thats created the overspending.

He knows he's losing...

Mentioned Palin lol

Obama is sounding strong

Obama sounds passionate about this and that's great.  McCain - I came in in the 8th inning and caught a fly ball and made an out.  Hey I won the game all by myself!

McCain: "We have succeeded"

McCain: "We have succeeded" sounds like "Mission accomplished."

How freakishly alike. And so bothersome that this is his answer to the lesson learned. So for McCain...no lesson learned.

John you were wrong

and you were wrong and you were wrong.  End of debate.  Can we vote now.

Interesting that McCain is

Interesting that McCain is willing to lie in the middle of a live debate. Wow.

Osama Bin Laden

Did he (McCain) just use Bin Laden and Patreus to support that the action is in Iraq?  Woe

Could someone set up a Obama Debate Money Bomb?

If we get one on the reclist at DKos it could raise a fair bit of cash tonight.

(I tried earlier and used up my one diary for the day.)

If you do put one up, put "REC UP: Debate Money Bomb" or something like that in the title.

Barath

 give me a link to your diary.

Christi - as an example?

Here it is:

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/26/52939/3277/198/611021

 

It's old so it can't make the reclist anymore.  (If you don't want to embed an ActBlue link, then you might just link direct to the Obama donation site.)

The old man's face

 Are you seeing this? Squinting into the camera. Creepy!

Finally!

Bomb. bomb Iran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

waterprise2 AKA Pam

Liberal with a Capital L!

 

lol.. "sung songs about

lol.. "sung songs about bombing Iran.." Unfortunately, only political addicts will get it, but great line nontheless.

Jujitsu or Aikido

President must be prudent but coming from you, who sang songs about bombing Iran....

What a smackdown

that's the biggest issue ...

McCain just said it... it's about Vietnam..."his" war that was not won. He will do anything to win Vietnam.

When will we hear about being a POW?...

Maybe he's saving it for his lowest point in this debate....

Who doesn't understand?

McCain keeps saying Obama "doesn't understand."

That almost seems, dare I say it, racist ... just fill in the rest of the stereotype -- "boy."

When's the last time you heard one presidential candidate say something so demeaning and dismissive to another. I think McCain's 20th Century thinking is showing threw in Freudian ways.

ohhh.  I think Johnny Mac's

ohhh.  I think Johnny Mac's gettin' mad.  Obama's getting under his skin, I think.

@ Bill

at the very least, saying over and over that Obama doesn't get it seems rude and condescending.  Not attractive.

McCain's tie must have been picked out by the Green Background dude.  Dizzying!

@Bill - You just don't understand...

Was thinking about that statement just as I read your comment.  My initial thought wasn't that it was racist, but that he was trying to demean, trying to highlight lack of experience, a certain naivitee (sp?).  I guess I see it as condescending...

I do wish O-man would start a rebuttal with 'I fully understand....

Barath

 Post it on BO's blog too.

i'd send my teenager to his room if he did that...

McCain actually rolled his eyes... his smirking is extremely offensive. any minute i expect him to suck his teeth.

No tea?

I'm sure Putin will be disappointed.

I'm confused about the independents.  It seems like they approve of most of what's being said.  Is that why they're undecided?

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